Reiki in Animal Rescue with Krista Sartoris

Join us as we sit down with Krista Sartoris, a Reiki practitioner whose passion for animal welfare has led her to volunteer with the SPCA and other animal rescues. Krista shares her inspiring experiences and the remarkable stories of healing and hope she has witnessed through the application of Reiki in the animal rescue world. 

This episode not only delves into the spiritual connection between humans and animals, but also highlights how we can host fundraising events with animal Reiki to support various animal charities. 

Discover how Reiki's gentle energy can be a beacon of light in the lives of rescued animals and how we can all contribute to their journey of recovery and love.

Donate to the Fredericton SPCA:  http://frederictonspca.ca/donate-on-line-now/

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Krista Sartoris is a Reiki and Animal Reiki practitioner and loyal volunteer with the local SPCA. A student of Pam's, Krista recently began offering Reiki, Animal Reiki, and Animal Communication to clients in the New Brunswick area.

Keep in Touch with Krista:
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@KristaShea?si=ygVsouCoVqxScTIO

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Pam Allen-LeBlanc is a scientist, a businesswoman, and a Licensed Reiki Master Teacher (LRMT) with the International Center for Reiki Training.  She is the author of "The Reiki Business Book" and a co-author of ICRT Animal Reiki training.  Pam teaches Reiki, Animal Reiki, and Animal Communication online and in person in Canada, the US, and Australia.

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• https://www.reiki.org/users/pamela-allen-leblanc#classes

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• Amazon.com The Reiki Business Book 
• Amazon.ca The Reiki Business Book 

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Transcript

Pamela: 0:07

Hi and welcome to the Reiki from the Farm podcast brought to you by me, Pam Allen Leblanc from Hidden Brook Farm. I am a scientist, a businesswoman, and a licensed Reiki master teacher with the International Center for Reiki Training. Each week in this podcast you'll be entertained as you learn about a wide variety of relevant Reiki topics, helping you become a more knowledgeable and effective Reiki practitioner.

0:34

We caution you though, this podcast may also dramatically improve your life, and we are so happy that you're here.

Pamela: 0:55

On this week's podcast, I am talking with my friend and student Krista Sartorius. Welcome, Krista. Hi, Pam. How are you? Thank you. So glad to be here. And we're talking about Reiki in animal rescue. Which is a fascinating topic. Before we begin, though, I just want to let you know about some of the things that we have coming up. December 28th, we have a Dream It, Do It Goal Setting Workshop. This is three hours in the evening of how to create goals, balance goals for all aspects of your life, and then how to accomplish them. This is something that my daughter pointed out I'm really good at and she said, Mom, Can you teach people how you always accomplish your goals? You don't have New Year's resolutions that you don't meet, like you, instead you have concrete goals throughout the year. Can you teach people how to do that? So we wanted to offer it just before the New Year. to Help you all with those resolutions and those things that you just want to accomplish in your life. So join us for that if it speaks to you. January 17th, 24th, and 31st from 6 to 9 p. m. Eastern Time, we are teaching Marketing Intensive. So that's three Monday evenings of intensive marketing just to help you market. Your own business, and Kathleen and I are trying to give all of our best tips and advice to try to save you time and money and just really help you get a handle on your marketing. We offered the course last June. It was sold out. We had, tremendous students who had tremendous results and if any of those students want to join us again, you're welcome to join at half B, but we'd love to have you join us for that and I'd also like to let you know about a Fredericton SPCA event, and we'll talk a little bit more about this in the podcast, that we're holding on January 18th called Beyond the Actually, what is it called? Beyond the Reiki Gateway, or the, no, the Reiki Bridge. The Rainbow Bridge. Beyond the Rainbow Bridge. Thank you, Krista. A heartfelt meeting with Fredicton SVCA. Our Fredicton SVCA is struggling right now to Meet their financial commitments. And so we're just trying to do anything that we can to help them. And in that event, that heartfelt evening with the Fredrickton SPCA, it's going to be two hours in Fredrickton at the Tom Morrison Theater, where I walk people through the mysteries of the. Animal afterlife, and I also will lead them in an animal Reiki forgiveness experience to help them release their grief. There's a lot of things the animals have taught me over the years about what the afterlife, of being a professional animal communicator for the last 12 or 13 years. that they've taught me about what happens when they pass and how it all works and so this is just a chance to share that with you and also lead you into meditation if you've ever if you have any grief from losing an animal in your life including a two legged or a human. animal. This is an opportunity to release that and to understand how that process works. And in that event, I also will be communicating with 12 random animals that I won't have connected with before who are in the afterlife. And we'll be doing that live. And so I'd love to have you join us for that. And but I've heard from so many of you that you would like to attend. However, you're not in the Fredericton area. So Krista and I, just before this podcast, set a date for Wednesday, February 7th from seven to 9:00 PM. Eastern Time, we will do the same event online for the same 50 fee, which we will also be donating to the Fredericton SVCA. So please join us at one of those two events if you'd like to contribute. We will also put a contribution button for the Fredericton SVCA in the podcast if you'd just like to make a straight out donation to them this holiday season. That of course would be much appreciated as well. Also wanted to let you know that our deepening connections with animals, just understanding how energy can impact how you connect with the important animals in your life, will be happening on January 3rd. 30th in the evening and I have a full lineup of ICRT licensed Reiki classes from January 20th to 24th, Level 1 and 2 and Masters. 27th to 31st is Animal Reiki 1 and 2 and Masters and in February I've got Animal Communication and Kaurna Reiki. Watch for our Some classes in an Australian and Asian friendly time zone in February and March. And if you'd like to join us in New York at the Northeast Reiki Retreat in May, or in June at the Omega Institute for a Reiki conference and also a World Peace Conference, I'm going to be teaching at both of those places. And William Rand will be teaching Kaurna Reiki also at the Omega Institute in June. And if I'm able to, I'm going to be assisting him in that class. So just tons and tons of great stuff coming up. A lot of animal stuff coming up and a lot of Reiki. We'd love to have you join us. Krista, what have you got going on? You've got a few things in the works as well, and some of it isn't yet. The dates aren't set, but tell us a little bit about those.

Krista: 7:00

I have a collaboration that I'm doing with my friend Tracy Underhill of Transform Holistic Health. We're hosting sound baths at Brookside Wellness Centre here in Fredericton. So it's guided meditation sound bath journey with group Reiki. And I have a YouTube channel, Krista Shea. I have a lot of travel blogs, travel. I have a lot of travel vlogs on there. Okay. And more in the works. And I am on Instagram as well.

Pamela: 7:34

Yeah, we'll put all your links and the link to your website as well in the podcast notes so people can reach out to you for any of those. Yeah. Thank you. And you're just starting your reiki business as well, aren't you? Yes, I am. Yes. Doing some animal reiki sessions.

Krista: 7:51

Yes. I'm a traditional Ussui Reiki master and I am just as of September, I am an animal Reiki master. I took my I took my animal Reiki one and two with you, Pam, and then I did my master's just in September in Campobello.

Pamela: 8:09

Where we met the wonderful humpback whales, Cork and Chevron, and Yes!

Krista: 8:14

They wouldn't leave our boat. Yes.

Pamela: 8:17

And we saw so many porpoises and a beautiful minky slice, wasn't it? They have names. Yes. The whale watchers His fin. Yeah, because his fin had been had been injured, and so they call him Slice. And the whale watchers know all the whales, and they have the names for the whales. And I mentioned this And I think another podcast, but just two days after we finished our master class together, Krista, the endangered right whales who had not been in the harbor for four years showed up and they spent the season there, which was just amazing.

Krista: 8:56

Animal

Pamela: 8:57

Reiki energy. All that animal Reiki energy. I just love it. And the

Krista: 9:02

orca. Oh, I was going to say the orca. Orca was, the male orca has been hanging around Grand Manan also for a lot of the season with a pod of dolphins.

Pamela: 9:15

Yes, and that's so unusual, isn't it? We didn't see him. There is only one orca up in our region and he swims with a pod of dolphins, which is incredible to me because I think dolphins are food for some orcas. This guy, they're both cetacean species, but it's, to me, that's just Such a neat story. And just the same as Cork and Chevron, they're two male humpbacks, I believe, who just never leave each other's side. And so just evidence that all kinds of relationships exist in nature as well, which I love. They were, you would see one surface, then the other, then one, then the other. And they actually stopped feeding to just hang around us and the energy in the boat. And Stephanie told me that. They never really quite had another whale watching day. That was quite like that. That never happened again for the rest of the season. I said, was that an unusual amount of activity? Cause we were just surrounded by whales almost the whole time. And she said, yes, actually it's very first time. And the last time that it happened. So we know that. that they're loving the animal Reiki and that they hung around one of the weir fishermen that was there was out, he goes out to check his weirs every morning and evening and I would see him when I would walk the dogs down to the wharf and he told me, he told Sheila and I in between two of the days of class, so after the first day of class and before the second day, he said, it's so unusual. Those humpbacks have been out there all night. Those whales have been out there all night, like right out in front of our house. He said, they didn't leave the harbor all night. Talking about your sound bath Krista, I looked sideways because a whole flock of birds just landed in the two trees right outside my window. So the animals are very drawn to this energy, aren't they? Yes, they are. I love it. I can feel it. Guys, we'd like to give you a little feel for animal Reiki, so we're going to start with a brief invocation today, where you bring your hands together, and Krista and I are going to use our distance symbols to send you just a little taste of the animal Reiki energy, so just closing your eyes, taking a deep breath, and just feeling your heartbeat align with the heartbeat of the earth, the heartbeat of nature, The rhythms of nature, winter, spring, summer and fall, the full moon cycles, and the energy of the elements, earth, air, water, fire, feeling your heartbeat align with the heartbeat of the animals. Acknowledging and understanding that we are one with the animals, part of the animal kingdom here on the earth, releasing the belief in dominion over the earth or the animals, realizing that we are part of nature, part of the wind in the trees, the rain, the thunders, part of the plants that nourish us, nourish the animals that sometimes nourish us. Part of the air that we breathe, that's created by the trees, connected to each other, to the animals, to the earth, releasing the belief in separation or that separation is even possible. Even entertaining the understanding that We may be one organism. Take a deep breath and just feel yourself move into alignment with nature and with the earth and with all that is. With the heartbeat of the Milky Way, the galaxy, the sun and the moon. Feel yourself align with the heartbeat of each other. All of those special people, that special breed of people who love the animals. And recognizing that regardless of our cultures, Upbringing, language, race, religion, and understanding. Many of us can connect and can unite through a love of the animals. And just feeling that unification consciousness move through you now. That love of the animals and their love of you. Moving you into more alignment with the divine. The divine in you, the divine in me. And I end our invocation with Namaste. The divine in me sees and recognizes the divine in you, the meaning of Namaste. Thank you. Aho. And so it is. Krista, thank you so much for

Krista: 15:41

Sorry, I was

Pamela: 15:43

That's okay. Go ahead. I'll start again. Krista, tell us a little bit about your journey into Reiki, and also the fact, you have been volunteering with rescue animals for over two decades, is that correct? Yes.

Krista: 16:09

Tell us a little

Pamela: 16:10

bit about that, and then your journey into Reiki, and then how that's all coming together for you.

Krista: 16:19

Sorry Pam. That's

Pamela: 16:24

all right. Do you need to pause and take a drink? Yeah. KRista, tell us a little bit about your journey into Reiki. But first, let's talk about animal rescue, because this has been a passion of yours. You started volunteering when you were 10 years old. Last year, you were the Fredericton SBCA Volunteer of the Year. So talk to us about animal rescue. And then, how that led to Reiki, Animal Reiki, and then how you're integrating both now. So that's a big mouthful, but but go ahead and tell us a little bit about your experiences.

Krista: 16:58

Sure. Yes, I've always loved animals, especially dogs. And I used to bother my mother all the time. And she finally, She signed me up to volunteer at the Fredericton SPCA when I was 10 years old on the weekends. She would drop me off. You're not allowed to do that anymore. It was

Pamela: 17:21

simpler times

Krista: 17:22

though. Then it was very different. Yes. And I would just help with the animals. And I eventually started working at the Fredericton SPCA on weekends. And. I got into dog rescue. I got into dog rescue and I started fostering, actually, sorry, I worked at an animal hospital here in Fredericton for a few years and then I stopped working there. I had to, I took on a job 9 to 5, excuse me, took on a 9 to 5 job, and I started fostering at my, at home in my own time, for different organizations, and I just loved that so much and I eventually got into Reiki because, uh, I had gone through struggles in life, as everyone does, And then things got really good. I feel like I'm a master manifester. I just bring, I can bring in, once I realized that I had this power that we all have, and I would just call in what I wanted my life to be like. And I felt though that there was something that was missing and I couldn't put my finger on what it was. And I had a, my first, then I had my first Reiki session and then I had another Reiki session. And then I went to another Reiki practitioner, Tracy Underhill, and I had three Reiki sessions fairly close together, and I really noticed a dramatic change in myself after those three sessions. And the way I would describe it is that I was just, I was nicer to my neighbours. I was, I, whereas I before perhaps would just come in the house and not want to, I just like, Hi, how are you? It just really changed who I was. Yeah. So I've always been involved with dogs, almost always with rescue. Reiki has been fairly new, probably the last six years or so. And then I decided that I wanted to take my level one and two. And then I heard about the Animal Reiki course, so I really wanted to do that once I heard that, and that there was a master's course in that. That was my goal last year, so I did get My Reiki masters, so that I could become an animal Reiki. Yes.

Pamela: 20:05

Yeah. And that's those are the two requirements or the prerequisites to animal Reiki master. You have to be an Yosui Reiki master from any lineage, any Yosui lineage and Reiki master teacher. And then you have to have had animal Reiki level one and two with us so that so that you can teach that. class. And so you really probably wouldn't have gone into the masters except that you really wanted the animal masters. That's

Krista: 20:33

right. Yes. Yes, I did. I

Pamela: 20:37

love that. And, what did you notice when you started, because you've been working doing rescue work for decades now, Krista, since you were 10 years old. I'm not going to say how many decades, but you and I are about the same age. And so people know how old I am. So I'm giving it

Krista: 20:55

away.

Pamela: 20:57

And so what, did you notice a difference when you started integrating Reiki with the rescue animals that you were fostering and that you were working with?

Krista: 21:10

Yes, did, sorry, did you say,

Pamela: 21:13

did I notice? Did you notice a difference, like in the, with the animals that you were working with? Because you've been volunteering for so long, and then once you started integrating Reiki obviously, you've decided to take it all the way through to Animal Master, you must have noticed that it made a difference.

Krista: 21:30

Yes so in the past I've worked with animals forever, and Reiki is fairly new to me and I was busy raising my children and everything, and once actually what happened was once my kids got older, I again felt that something was missing, and I feel it was Reiki, and I had a life purpose Online Reiki session with you, Pam, and because I just, I also, again, felt like what am I here for? What is my purpose? Although I'm definitely passionate about dogs and I had that online Reiki session to find my life purpose with you. And it was very clear to me that it was the Fredericton SPCA rescue. At the same time, a couple of years ago, I was having pain in my foot, and I had gout, which is very strange because I have, I don't eat seafood, and I don't eat red meat, I'm vegan I was told that I was, had a fear of stepping forward into my power, so that led me to having the online Reiki session with you for life purpose, and it was very clear that it was the Fredericton SBCA, but not just the Fredericton SBCA, just Animal Rescue. Yeah, as a whole. In general, yes. Yeah. So I started getting, I put myself back out there and started getting involved with the Fredericton SPCA again. And I told them that I was an animal Reiki practitioner and they were very happy to have me come and give Reiki to some of their dogs. And so to start with, they had some pug mixes that needed that had cruciate repairs on their knees so they couldn't really jump around or anything that had to be kept very quiet. They had the Elizabethan collars on their heads and so I, I went in and sat in one of the offices with two little pugs. It wasn't a bad gig at all and I have photos of them And there are little cones on and there are bandages on their legs and they're wrapped in blankets and they're just taking the Reiki in. I wish I had have known about Reiki 20 years ago and been a Reiki practitioner, but I didn't. When I was fostering in my own home, I wasn't aware of Reiki at that

Pamela: 24:05

time. Not many of us were to be fair, Krista. It wasn't as prevalent as it is today.

Krista: 24:10

Okay. Yeah.

Pamela: 24:12

So because, yeah, you found it made a big difference.

Krista: 24:15

Yes. Yes, and it's so relaxing for myself, too. And for them.

Pamela: 24:22

No, and there's been some research done Kathleen Prasad who Does a lot of rescue work with her animal Reiki, her Sarah Organization. I noticed she had an article in the I think it was in the Reiki News magazine It was somewhere that I saw it where They actually started keeping note of statistical, statistically, when they, she's she worked with animals that were hard to adopt, and so maybe had been there for longer, and they would quite quickly After she did Reiki sessions, they would quite quickly get adopted and in fact, successfully adopted too, because sometimes they would get adopted and then it wouldn't work out and have to come back, but they noticed a significant difference. And so I know one of my other students who practices with rescues in Moncton noticed that as well. She began working with rescues and she would really focus on those animals that. were unadoptable or that were having difficulty being adopted and She would notice that their personalities would shift. They would become open to adoption and so on and Notice the difference in that and you had an animal you worked with a big Bigger animal a big Great Dane who was successfully adopted after you were. Yes, and he's struggling hadn't he? Yes.

Krista: 25:50

Yes, he had. Yeah

Pamela: 25:53

That must be an amazing feeling

Krista: 25:55

Yes. He was happy to have the company also like he loved Lynn that works at the shelter. Yeah. She was her sidekick and bUt yes, I sat with Homer and he just loved it, loved the attention. But the reiki, oh, and he was so big. I think he was 148 pounds and I can't imagine. Just, I did hold my hands in the Reiki. We don't need to hold our

Pamela: 26:26

hands for animal Reiki, but every single one of us does it. I don't know why we all do this, even though we don't need to. No.

Krista: 26:36

We all do, including me. I went on his chakras and, he just fell into this deep sleep, and yeah, he was, he before the Reiki session, I had noticed that he would hear a car in the parking lot, or hear somebody out moving around, and he was just very, of course, Attuned in tune with that. Yes. And while I was giving him the reiki it was about 30 minutes of reiki and a car pulled in the driveway and the door closed outside and he didn't. Perkan ear or anything. He was just so deep. It was wonderful. Yeah, he was really into it. And then he woke up and his eyes were, how their eyes go roll back in their heads. They're just like, so relaxed. And he's just looked around like, where am I? Horses do

Pamela: 27:30

that too. Their eyes just go straight back in there. We're doing Reiki for each other. I love it. I, that's an amazing, and you know something I did communicate with Homer and I know that he told me like I'm perfectly happy staying here at the SPCA and being their mascot and I didn't know that he had become a little mascot for them at the time and then I did see a video of him in his new home and oh my he's living his best life like he is so appreciated and he's having, he was doing zoomies. He's having so much

Krista: 28:03

fun. Yes. He loves them. They love him. Like

Pamela: 28:08

it's just like the best story ever. I just love that, and not all the stories work out as well in a way but maybe they do, and I think it would be okay for me to tell a story of an animal whose owner passed, and the animal just really lost all its will to live, and it just continually escaped until it finally It got struck by a car. And what's interesting is that between animal communication and animal Reiki and you and I both know if a dog wants to escape. And nothing will prevent them from escaping if we've had a dog that a foster, we're not a foster, she's my daughter's dog who got away on us right away. She just, they'll find an opening and, but to be honest, when that dog Did when that did happen I could really feel the dog's soul move to a place of peace where I did had done some Reiki for that dog and I couldn't get it to a place of peace. And I'm not sure if we would have been able to, it just really was that attached to its person, its caregiver. So animal, but this, these sorts of things are really hard. They're really difficult mentally and emotionally on the shelters and for, yes, people, yes, people. And one of the things we were creating Animal Reiki, that the animals were really specific about. They let us know that they had, that a lot of people who worked in shelters, who do work in veterinary care, who work with animals welfare, Farmers even, people who work with animals welfare, this is not a nine to five job. These people love these animals. They have a great deal of compassion, sometimes imbalanced empathy, sometimes too much empathy for the animals, and it's exhausting. And they're often working under very difficult circumstances, like you and I have become aware that financially their Fredicton SBCA is. is reaching out for assistance because they need help right now. And so there's things like this. So not only do you have all this mental and emotional turmoil with animals that are struggling or who've maybe been in very difficult positions and conditions, but on top of that, you have financial constraints and you have people that don't. That maybe have very rigid ideas and don't appreciate the circumstances that, that they're working under and so on, and maybe don't appreciate the nuances of working with rescue animals. I began rescuing dogs in my, I think I was 18, 19 when I adopted my first dog and And I had worked in veterinary with, in veterinary care. I studied pre veterinary medicine and worked in veterinary care, but in the end I'm almost grateful I didn't go into veterinary because I was, you I do know that I would have struggled with over empathy and even moved into a burnout, which is very common for people in these situations. And so one of the things that the Animal Reiki Energy was very clear with us on is that it brought in it brought in meditations to help us with compassion fatigue. It brought in meditations to help us rel Release things like guilt, grief, shame, blame, imbalance, empathy, and compassion, fatigue, and things like that. And so can you tell me what you've noticed? And you can use the Reiki that you have. with animals. There's nothing wrong with that. But when we went in and listened and developed animal Reiki, there were specific tools and techniques that were given to us to assist people in shelters because it is so difficult for them. And sometimes I get a little upset, when our shelter posts about some of the difficult decisions that they have to make and people can sometimes make comments that are very unkind. And I realize what a tremendous strain our friends are in if they work in a shelter or a sanctuary or a veterinary or agriculture when they're working for the welfare of these animals. Can you explain what The difference you notice like with some of the animal Reiki tools and the animal Reiki has specific energy and where you think we can most help in, what's the best way we can reach out with our Reiki and our animal Reiki and even just our physical selves. What's the best way to reach out and help the shelters, Krista?

Krista: 33:16

I think we can reach out and help by fundraising and volunteering spreading the word on social media, um,

Pamela: 33:26

maybe even supportive comments on social media. Yes.

Krista: 33:30

I Have done that when there's a negative comment has been made and that just people just, yeah, that's right. And, um, when after another type of thing. I have stood up and said, I support this organization. And, you don't have to say anything bad about anyone. Just show that you support, stand up for the organization.

Pamela: 33:57

And then some Reiki too. to everyone in that situation, right? Because people are saying negative comments because it's something in them that's being triggered. Yes.

Krista: 34:07

People hurt people, right? And animals. Another thing that I have done is Just send Reiki and surround the property of the organization with Reiki, all four corners, and it just happens like when you send a distant Reiki symbol, and just picture the organization, the building, the people that go in that bubble almost surrounded, all the animals surrounded by Reiki and peace so that they, when they are in the building or enter the building offer them like Reiki protection shield. I've also found the the meditation, the forgiveness, Garden of Forgiveness Experience, the Garden of Forgiveness Experience. has been very helpful for me personally, having worked at an animal shelter and being the person that had to make and do the hard decisions and and back when people, if pets aren't being, or animal companions are not being spayed and neutered and, it's up to the shelter care attendants to make decisions on behalf, basically, of the public being responsible, that, That bears a heavy load. Forever. Felt like forever. Heavy

Pamela: 35:43

load and a heavy price tag, because They're then, spaying and neutering and spaying and neutering the puppies and kittens and

Krista: 35:52

that's expensive. Yes, but when they were not being spayed and neutered and they were just producing puppies and especially kittens, in our area. There's a lot more cats that need homes than dogs. People would bring their pets into an animal shelter to be euthanized. Or, we would have to make the decision to euthanize. And the Garden of Forgiveness experience, when I did the Animal Reiki, helped me so much. I had a recurring nightmare. Not every night or anything, but I, over the years, I've had a recurring nightmare, and after I did that Garden of Forgiveness experience, I did not have those nightmares anymore, and the nightmares were to do with having worked at an animal shelter with, and they would get, cats in particular would get sick, and yeah, it was just,

Pamela: 36:50

And there were just so many. And you would have to pick which one,

Krista: 36:54

yes, yeah,

Pamela: 36:56

not enough homes. Must have been just heart

Krista: 36:58

wrenching. Yes, yeah, it was. And, but releasing that and doing what I can now to help find homes. Yeah,

Pamela: 37:12

that's my heart goes out to you, Kristen, you're not the first person I've had so many people who were just buried in we call it compassion fatigue. And it's actually considered secondary traumatic stress disorder, not post traumatic stress disorder, but secondary traumatic stress disorder. And it's Absolutely exhausting and can impact every area of your life. And I was so grateful that, that, that was so healing for you, but we have had other people as well in that class who just, it, it changed their lives completely veterinary technicians and caregivers and animal rescue. People and you name it, like it just really made a huge difference. So I'm so grateful that we're going to be actually ending our podcast with that today for people, yeah, who may be struggling under some of that load. Maybe you're a caregiver of a human animal. Or a four legged or winged or so on, but maybe you are experiencing compassion fatigue. And so yeah. So I think just anything we can do to support. Now, say somebody wants to volunteer and they're a Reiki practitioner, sometimes not all organizations know what Reiki is. We're very fortunate. You and I both went into the Frederickton SCBCA and said, Hey, I'd like to volunteer my Reiki. And they said, fantastic. Not all organizations understand what Reiki is or how it could, would help. What would you recommend? somebody do as a first point of contact. And I know, because, you did on one of our Reiki shares one of the questions that somebody asked was, I went in and offered Reiki and they weren't receptive, or, and animal communication, and they weren't receptive to it. And you had an excellent advice. I wonder if you could share it with us now.

Krista: 39:09

I Would recommend building a relationship with the shelter or whoever the person is. If there's one person in particular that is the community outreach person. So instead of perhaps just offering to go in and give Reiki, whereas people may not know what that is, you could just start volunteering. anD there are many ways you can volunteer and you can infuse Reiki. Into, um, you're volunteering. Yes. So whether it's fundraising or going into the animal shelter and cleaning litter boxes, walking dogs fostering most animal shelters really need fostering too. And if you go in and build a relationship and stay consistent and. Show up when you say you're going to show up because they do rely on people coming into the shelter. And you can introduce them. Too great. I don't know. Good concept.

Pamela: 40:15

Yeah, just I know exactly what you're saying. It can come up in conversation yes, I also do right, they might say, gosh, the animals are always so well behaved when you're here. And it's Oh, doing my work in a Reiki bubble. What's Reiki? This is what it is. And, it won't go where it doesn't have permission, but, some of the answers. The animals seem to really like it or, you can introduce and I think that's excellent advice because not everybody is as open minded yet or not everybody understands what it is. I'll just go in and let them get to know you as a person. Yes,

Krista: 40:52

I think that they will find, I'm sure with you Pam too, people tell me that they're, they feel calm when I'm around, and I know they Feel the same way about you. So they're going to pick up on that. The people are going to pick up on that and then you can introduce them. To what Reiki is and what you're doing and it's just very gentle and it's all love and it's,

Pamela: 41:17

yeah, it really is beautiful. And I appreciate that. I used to go up on my lunch breaks when I worked with the Department of Agriculture because it was just around the corner and I wanted to take a walk anyway. So why not go and walk dogs? So I would go up two and three times a week on my lunch breaks and walk dogs for them at lunch hour. And it was just lovely. I enjoyed doing it. I enjoyed the dog time. My own dog was at home, but I didn't have time to get home to him. And back to work in an hour, but I could get up to the SVCA. And that's wonderful. And it was just wonderful. And I know that I would be a foster failure. In fact, we have a fifth dog right now, because, and I, my husband said, maybe we could just foster her. And I'm like, let's not even pretend that we would at that. If she's coming here, she's coming here for good. We all know that.

Krista: 42:08

One appointment

Pamela: 42:12

to be spayed in next week, which I'm so grateful for. She's only been here and today is her ninth day and it's just working out beautifully because, and what a difference, like I know what you mean about when you were fostering how you wish you'd had Reiki, because what a difference. I've rescued dogs since I was 18, and what a difference bringing a dog in with animal Reiki and animal communication and being able to just communicate what you need to help them work on the issues. She arrived here messing on the floors and her previous people, that was one of the big issues. And her previous people, I don't have any, I don't have anything against people who need to rehome. Sometimes an animal just doesn't work in a certain situation, and the best thing that you can do is try and help that animal find a situation that it will work for. Baxter was that way. His people lived in a mini home, and I've never seen a dog with this amount of energy that Baxter has. You've met Baxter, if I do not walk him two and three times a day, he explodes, and I just think these poor people with busy lives and young kids in a mini home, the best thing they could do was to find a place and a person whose kids had grown, so I have time to walk dogs twice a day, or and or somebody here does, socialize on Thursday. And and so for this recent dog, she was constantly messing in the house. Within a day and a half, she stopped. And I know it's just the Reiki, the consistency, the animal communication was able to explain to her what we were hoping for. And then, and then they always have free will, but she was just I like it here. I think I want to try to do that. And she had been trained to go on pee pads. It wasn't her, this is where she was trained in an apartment with her first person. Like the second people we took her from was either her second or third home. So it was it, but Reiki just. helps so much with that. And so yeah, I, I agree. This is something that can be really helpful. Whether you have a Reiki or Animal Reiki. Animal Reiki gives us a few more tools, but you can also use your Yosui Reiki as well with the animals. Let's talk about some fundraising events, Krista, and. Okay. Recently, I attended a beautiful conference at the Omega Institute with three, four, three Hay House authors and Shelley Carr. It was John Holland, Rebecca Campbell, Anita Morijani, and Shelley Carr. And the conference was just life altering. But one of the things that happened is John Holland is a. Very well known psychic medium and he does these big mediumship events all over the world and but he had a special dog that he, the energy of the other side guided him to go and adopt this dog from an SPCA that was local to him in New York. And so he did. And then they had an inqui incredible life together. And I guess that's another thing we can do. I guess you mentioned that, if you can provide a home to some of the animals. And so they had an incredible life together, but when the dog passed, he was devastated and he thought, what can I do? The dog's name was, I think Koda, and which is interesting because I had a very special dog to me named Cody that came from a shelter, which all my dogs come from shelters or re homing, we seem to be very successful with that. Someday I said I'll write a book about how we're successful with that. One of the big keys is get for a walk every single day,

Krista: 46:09

every day.

Pamela: 46:10

Without fail, exercise makes for a much better. partners that then, apply copious amounts of Reiki and love and attention, but also have boundaries and rules and expectations and those sorts of things. So it's a balancing act. But he talked about how he decided to begin doing these mediumship events for his local shelter to raise funds for them because the veterinary expenses are going up through no fault of the veterinarians their drug is going up their hourly rate wages have to go up for inflation like everything has been going up and so the budgets for these organizations are just being stretched so thin these days. The power is going up. The taxes that they have to pay for their facilities are going up, everything. And so I thought wait, I could do that. Why don't I do that? And so I gave some, I just asked Reiki what could I do? And that event that I mentioned to you came just right out of the air beyond the Rainbow Bridge, a heartfelt evening with the Fredericton SPCA. And it's just an opportunity for me to help explain the mysteries of the animal afterlife to people and let them know that animals think about death. Very differently than humans do and also give them an opportunity to heal their hearts for having, for any animals that they lost. And then I'll do the communication with the animals. And we did get a chance to run that for a kibble program at in a neighboring community of Harvey. We raised over 600 that way. We're hoping if this evening sells out, we could raise a significant. amount of funds for the Fredericton SPCA and they do need it right now. So we are hopeful that we can do that. What are some other things that people can do for fundraising? You've got some people looking into some things.

Krista: 48:15

I do. I have some friends that are interested in helping our local Fredericton SPCA as well. And we're I don't think they all know each other, but they all know that I love the African SBCA. One is a yoga instructor one is an esthetician one friend works at an animal hospital, and we all want to do something. So if we can concentrate our efforts together, perhaps and have, I, I know the, SBCA has said that third party events are very successful, third party community events are successful. So it doesn't necessarily have to be, at the SBCA, you can host your own events of whatever your thing is. And yes, money goes

Pamela: 49:02

to the SBCA.

Krista: 49:05

Yes, whatever your thing is you can take the initiative instead of thinking, Oh, that's too bad. I, what can I do? I'm one person. You can reach out and people do want that sense of community to be brought together, for a yoga class now that things have opened up since the pandemic. And, the event that you're hosting in January I had two boxers that were both older and I lost them both in one month of each other. No, I'm sorry. I lost them both in the same month in January of 2015. And it was devastating. I was in bed for four days, crying and I felt it was such a huge loss. And, there is no funeral. There is no my husband was very empathetic, but he didn't. Really get it, who do you talk to, when that happens? There's not really any closure. You're just left to be really sad. So that's another thing that I really felt with the Animal Reiki course that I was drawn to, which I didn't really want that to happen. I don't want grief it's not something you really want in your life, but that was definitely something that I feel called to help people with, because I went through the loss of my two boxers, um, in 2015. I feel that I really, I understand how difficult it is. And the Animal Reiki course, you do learn tools on how to help people with grief, losing their

Pamela: 50:47

friend. Yeah, it's so important. And that came directly from the animals. It was something that they wanted for their people, their caregivers. They wanted their people to understand, how they looked at it, where they were going, that they were fully engaged in every aspect of the cycle of life, including the death aspect of the cycle of life. They knew where they were going. They weren't worried about it. And they wanted us to help the people through the group. Yes, the

Krista: 51:17

people don't, not all the people know that's how the animals feel. So I feel that it's very important with just to spread that word about with the

Pamela: 51:26

animal Reiki. Yeah, I agree. It was a very crucial part of the course. And it's a hard part of the course. We all want Reiki to be love and light. And. It is love and light, but the love and light has to be applied to the dark stuff, and so sometimes we have to acknowledge it, we have to be aware that it's there, and grief is one of those big things that, oof, I, as you said that, I realized that we had three little dogs and we lost them. all within six months of each other. We lost January, we lost or seven months, and then we lost the last two within two weeks of each other. And it was devastating. And I know that when when we lost Cody, CJ was still here, but he's, and He was so old. He was older than dirt. They were all rescues. We'd rescued them all at the same time. I went out and got another dog right away because I was worried about CJ, not having a companion. They grieve too. The animals grieve too. And we do talk about that in Animal Reiki as well. And so we brought this animal companion. CJ got along immediately with him. But then within a week, CJ was gone. as well. Oh my goodness. It was hard, I'm so happy that I had Baxter here to help me through. And a few months later, Henry arrived and then the others just kept arriving. Till you get to fly. My husband did the last one though, at least it wasn't me. It's usually me.

Krista: 53:04

He

Pamela: 53:04

we wanted to help our friend. They just, they were struggling and she needed to get spayed and they just weren't in a position to do that. Do you have a

Krista: 53:11

farm?

Pamela: 53:12

We have a farm and my husband's we have four, what's five? If she weighs 10 pounds, it's great.

Krista: 53:20

They'll all fit

Pamela: 53:20

in the back of the we had to get, vehicles with a little larger.

Krista: 53:25

Back to

Pamela: 53:25

them so that everybody will fit. But they still all fit. Although the little one's small enough, she can weasel her way through the cage and she winds up on our lap and Aw.

Krista: 53:37

The reiki from the farm bus goes from Durham to Campobello. all the animals or the dogs, I should say. Not the horses, of course, but I love that.

Pamela: 53:49

I love that What, working with all the different rescues, the SBCAs and other rescues, what are some unique challenges and rewards that you've noticed, Krista? Uh,

Krista: 54:03

I also work with, a little bit, with a local farm animal sanctuary. I wanted to mention too, Lily's Place Animal Sanctuary. They're in Cambridge Cody's, Cambridge Narrows area. And they have a lot of sheep, which I love

Pamela: 54:17

sheep. Aren't they delightful?

Krista: 54:20

Yes, Jamie from the sanctuary. She said that sheep are just like big St. Bernard's. They're just so calm and gentle and oh, I just love

Pamela: 54:29

them. It feels so good when you put your hands in their wool. They're just such delightful animals. I love sheep. Yes, and

Krista: 54:36

when you live in the city, as I do, just to go, they have an open house once a year and to see them in person and, Oh, it's just, I love sheep even more. So I have done an online Reiki session with Betty, one of the sheep that was at their sanctuary. And that was wonderful. It was, um, wouldn't say it's a challenge because it was online, but I think it was because I was new to animal Reiki. So that was the challenge, not being there in person.

Pamela: 55:06

It was your first animal Reiki online session. So yes, That's a little nerve wracking. Mine was the first time I did a distance online. It was nerve wracking. It's a lot of years ago now. It's about 13 years ago, but it was

Krista: 55:22

nerve wracking. Yes. So I think some of the challenges are Sorry, I'm just gonna take a quick look at my notes. Some of the challenges are the commitment. Yeah. That you have to be home, you have to be around. You can't go away for a weekend. You have to if you're gonna foster. Yeah. You have that. Animals need a routine. Yeah. And they need the commitment. If you're fostering puppies and you have, if you're used, having had one puppy is. can be a lot of work, but if you have several puppies, or if if you have a litter of puppies, that's, It's a

Pamela: 56:04

whole other level.

Krista: 56:06

Yes. A whole other level.

Pamela: 56:08

Yes. I've never done that. I think that I've seen people who have and I'm just Oh my goodness. Okay. Yes.

Krista: 56:16

And you do get attached. So that's a reward. I was saving that for the end, but it's a reward and a challenge is that you get so attached and it is. So hard to let them go. But if you keep an animal, which there's nothing wrong with keeping a animal that yes, yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you are able to let them go, and they find a wonderful home, then you're opening up another space for another animal that Maybe is in a shelter or is in need to come in to foster and

Pamela: 56:50

also have really clear boundaries around that. But I can see that if you're a person, if I wasn't such a big wuss about letting them go, it would be great because we know how to help them with some of the challenging behaviors. So that would make an excellent foster.

Krista: 57:08

Yes. And for fostering kittens and cats there's certain times of the year that there are more kittens, and if you have a room that you can provide for a mother cat and her kittens, and, you still have to be home, of course, or frequently, to take care of them, but really, the mother cat Cares for her kittens. Quite well if you have a separate room for them to be safely tucked away and the mama cat knows what she's doing. quite as much work as a puppy, right? Yes. That's a good point. I also, I find it's good if someone is looking to adopt. It would be a great idea to look at adopting a pet that has been fostered, an animal companion that has been fostered, because when you foster, you get to see a personality of the animal that will help them down the road,

Pamela: 58:09

find a home. We've been very fortunate that several of our we did get Henry straight from the SPCA, and he worked out beautifully, but Many of our pets, animals, I do call them pets, they don't seem to mind that term many of our dogs have been fostered beforehand, and it is nice, like we knew what the challenges were going to be with Ellie from the start, we weren't, we didn't have to And even Izzy, we knew when she came, they told us she's a runner. She got away on us. And sure enough, she got away on us too. Three days to get her back. But we were aware of that and, somewhat prepared. It would have been better if she hadn't gotten away, but it happens. Like I, I do not, I know that there, if there is an animal that wants to get away, there is nothing that will prevent them from that. That's right.

Krista: 59:06

They will find a way. Yes. When I did foster most of the time that I fostered was when my two sons were quite a bit younger. They are, Big dog lovers now. I find that, when they're, they were little boys and growing up having foster pets here that you, they really did learn how to read a dog. There are different signs and cues that animals give off. Body language. My kids really, yeah. We all have large dogs now. We all love our big dog lovers and they're dog lovers as I am, for sure.

Pamela: 59:45

A lovely legacy to pass on to your children. Yes, oh that's true. That is great. That's really like you've really given them a part of what's very important to you and yeah. Is there anything else there, Krista?

Krista: 1:00:11

No, you gave us a lot of good. I wanted to say for challenges and reward is letting them go. Yes. So it's hard for us to let them go, but it's rewarding. Looking back now, for me, looking back, it is so rewarding, now that the emotion isn't quite there anymore, of bringing a litter of kittens back to the shelter that had been adopted out, and it's, I have pictures of them, printed pictures before, before we had iPhones and things, of our foster kittens and puppies and adult dogs that

Pamela: 1:00:46

I fostered and. Just knowing you made such a difference. And I'm thinking if you chose to even go in and do work at a rescue, knowing that you're helping those animals go to the home, that's exactly right for them. It does have its own reward, doesn't it? Yes. Yeah, that I, that occurred to me, like I mentioned with Krista with you, if you wanted to hold a fundraising event with Animal Reiki, like I'm doing you could also, you could even, one of the benefits is you could ask for, may I have a donation receipt for, for what I'm doing and just however they work it out. I don't know when I do the the fundraising event, like if it'll be for two hours, or if it'll be the total amount raised, I don't know. But they said absolutely, because it is all being raised based on the event. And so then I'll be able to just, I'm not charging them anything, of course. But That way it'll be something I can apply to my taxes, which is helpful. Or that might be a possibility as well. Yes. I don't really know how to work it out and I don't care, but I'll have a sort of donation receipt that I'll put against my taxes, which will be lovely.

Krista: 1:02:01

So in that event, I would. In that case, if I did a fundraiser, then I would charge or ask for a donation. However much money I receive on behalf of the shelter, then I donate it to the shelter and they give me however that would work.

Pamela: 1:02:17

Yeah so I don't know for mine, are they going to give me like what I would charge for two hours or? Or the total amount I don't know, but it doesn't matter. They're actually putting on the event. I suppose if you put on the event and then gave them the money, they might make the donation receipt in total to you, but however they do it, it doesn't matter. There'll be some, I don't care. I would do it regardless. But that'll be nice to have. Because you are donating your time. And so it will be nice to have something to put against taxes for that.

Krista: 1:02:54

Yeah. I hope people hear this and take an initiative to do something in their community as well, wherever they live

Pamela: 1:03:03

and maybe we want to attend our event to get an idea of what it's like and feels like either online or in person. And then, you can go and design your own event based on that. So that's an idea too. Yes. I love it. I'm just going to share a neat story. I did do an event recently and it was so interesting because I was planning on talking about something completely different, but for some reason one of my animal Reiki masters was in the audience, Amy, and she kept talking about she kept, she directed the conversation around, But you haven't been successful with aggressive dogs or with aggressive animals. And I said, no, that's right. And I was very clear that animal Reiki has helped in so many situations, but to date, when animals have aggression issues So far, I haven't been able to be successful with that. And in fact, with the animal communication, most of those animals that I've talked with have asked to be put down. They've shown that there was something wrong in their brain, either due to inbreeding or for a variety of other reasons, but that there was a misfire in their brain that would bring on this This sudden and untriggered aggression and it turned out the, and it wasn't part of the plan, I wasn't planning to talk about that, but it turned out one of the beautiful people in the audience who has had a lot of experience with animals and they have a beloved dog who had the sporadic aggression issue. And it really and they had made the very difficult decision, and it is a very difficult decision. My heart goes out to people who have to make that decision. There's I have zero judgment because I don't know what else you can do if you've got an animal whose aggression is sporadic and uncontrolled and so on. And you're, I actually was told once you're actually better off to have an animal that's always aggressive because you're always on your guard. It's the animals mostly okay but then are sporadically aggressive that are the most dangerous because inevitably you will let down your guard, and I had a dog like that once unfortunately and I wasn't successful in rehabilitating him and that's a lot of years ago. I felt that it was a failure at the time, but I realized that as an animal professional, it was important for me to have had that experience as difficult as it was. And it was difficult because that dog was perfect 99. 9 percent of the time. But when he would snap, he was uncontrollable 110 pound. hundred and between 110 and 120 pound German Shepherd was just as fit and strong and fast. And he attacked several things before I finally asked for help and was, it was recommended to put him down. And so I shared that story and how difficult it was for me, but also that I knew that. A story like that showed up in our Animal Reiki manual so that we could tell people that we're not able to sometimes the Animal Reiki comes in to help the people around these difficult decisions and were not always able to fix every situation. And that was so helpful for that woman. And I'm just so grateful that I was able to be there in a place to help her because I know exactly what that Feels like making that you had been through it. I've been through it. And at the time I had adopted the dog from the SPC, I'd had him six months and they were six beautiful months, like six. Of the best months, he was, like I said, 99. 9 percent of the time I could not ask for a better dog, but he did attack, um, several other animals, he tried to attack a person, fortunately wasn't successful, the door got closed and the person got on the other side of the door and ran away, it was my roommate's brother, and never returned until the dog was gone. He was really frightened of the dog and the dog was lunging at the door and there was nothing I could do. I couldn't even open the door until he was gone. And until the dog stopped lunging, I could not get him out as close as we were. I couldn't get him out of that mindset that he was in. And I knew I was in danger too probably until. His mindset flipped. I'm not sure, but there's a, there's a good chance. So I stayed safely on the other side of the door until several minutes after. That person left and he finally calmed down and then went in, but yeah and children in the neighborhood and I knew that and the, and I got and it was, I had adopted him from the Fredericton SPCA and I got the most wonderful and compassionate advice from them. They told me. I took him back and I said, look, this has been happening and it's happening with increasing frequency, and I don't know what to do. Can you please tell me what to do? And they said, you have to surrender him back to us. They said, you have to understand that he was probably surrendered for a reason, that not everybody is honest with us. when they surrender the dogs. So we're not always aware of the reason, but now that the, and then they explained that animals like that can be the most dangerous because we let our guards down. And it was the most heart wrenching decision I've ever had to make. So they and so I, I surrendered him and I just sobbed for the entire night. I didn't go to work the next morning. I went back to the SPCA and said, I changed my mind. I have to, I don't know what I'll do. I have to figure out something. And they said, no, it's too late. And I don't know if it was, but it was the right thing. to tell me because I would have ripped that place apart to get that dog back, and looking back, now that I have animal communication, somebody asked me once, I was explaining that story in my animal communication class, and somebody said, did you ever go and reach out to him now on the other side and ask him how he felt about it? And I said, no, I haven't. Isn't that crazy? I've just felt guilty about it for my entire that happened when I was 21, I think. And I just felt guilty for 20 some odd years. It felt awful for almost 30 years. I didn't, I think for about 30 years, I just felt like a failure and that I'd failed him. aNd I, so I immediately after that class went in and connected with him, and I, I asked him the question that a lot of people ask in this situation, do you forgive me? And he just said there was nothing to forgive, and he explained to me that my role in his life was to give him six good months, because he'd had six very rough years. in his previous, he was six when I adopted him and he had six very tough years and he said, I needed that six good months and then I needed to go because I was going to hurt someone and that wasn't my personality. There was something wrong in my brain. It would. Switch and I would lose control. And then when I came back to myself, I would feel terrible about it. I didn't like who I would become. And he basically showed that for his first six years, he was just tied outside on a chain and nothing was ever done with him. So he wasn't in a situation to harm people, but we had a life together. We, he went running with me every day and he came driving in the car and we went to lakes and swimming and played Frisbee. And we just. Did stuff together constantly. And so he was in situations where he would snap and potentially hurt someone. And so he showed me that was my role for him was giving him six amazing months so that he could go and go gratefully knowing. that the earth and the world had more to offer than what he had experienced up till then. And then he said, I needed to teach you this very difficult lesson so that you wouldn't be judgmental of other people's situation. And you needed to realize that it's not always possible to fix things. And you're an animal, Reiki, you're an animal. Professional now, and I am, because I was a horse trainer before I was a Reiki practitioner, before I was an animal communicator, before I was an animal Reiki practitioner, and he said, you're influencing hundreds and thousands of people now, you needed to learn you're in a position of influence, you needed to know this. So that's why he was in my life. So that was, I'm sorry, I went into a lot more detail than I had intended to on that story, but. I think maybe there might be somebody listening who needs to hear that. That must be why. And that's exactly what happened at that event. So I was

Krista: 1:12:34

grateful. And you, if anyone is going through that, you do wonder, why is this happening to me? And I can think of other situations in my life that I've had, not necessarily around animals either, but just different situations. Why is this happening? And looking, when you look back, you can see, you learn why. Things are happening. It

Pamela: 1:12:56

makes sense. And I've actually been in a situation, yeah, as an animal communicator and an animal Reiki practitioner, where I've tried to help several people in a similar situation. I just haven't been successful yet, and I'm not going to say that. It will never happen, but, maybe someday we will, and now I know that there's a dog trainer near me that works with police dogs and stuff, and if she had been around back then, I don't know. I definitely would have tried her. I think that, I definitely, if I ever am in that situation again, hopefully I'm not, but I would definitely try that and then make the difficult decision. But that wasn't even available back then. No. Style of training and. Yes.

Krista: 1:13:45

Internet to find people.

Pamela: 1:13:48

I know, right? And we knew so much less then. And she may have been able to channel the aggression, but she might not. She might have said, you need to put this dog down. And, it's yeah, it's one of those things that I hope you're not experiencing if you're listening, but I hope that you, if you do run into somebody experiencing it, you'll be able to understand a little better or move into a place of compassion. And not judgment. That's one of the big things the animals told us is that we needed to move out of a space of judgment and into a place of compassion. And I think that's maybe why that, when we do see unkind comments in social media around rescues and so on, I think that's why, it is important to stand. I think that's judgment coming through. I think there's, but. One of the things William Rand taught me early on, if you're judging, others, it's because you're also judging yourself. He said, if you're, if you're pointing a finger at someone, there's at least three fingers pointed back at you. And so judgment, he was very clear that if you are finding yourself in a place of judgment, you're not in a place of love. And you're also be aware that you're judging something in yourself, that this is triggering something in you, right? You're judging. So judgment has been a very big thing for me. I didn't think I was judgmental until I started doing Reiki and Reiki showed me all the places that I was being

Krista: 1:15:20

judgy. Yes, I agree for myself also. Yes, especially with animals. If people don't treat their animals the way that I treat my animals, then oh, they're done. They're not doing a very good job, they could do better. Yes, yeah, but with the

Pamela: 1:15:37

Rei, Animal Reiki especially, it really learns to No, just really helps heal that judgment. I will say something for judgment. When I was training horses, when I had only trained like two and three horses, I was, and it worked really well. I said, clearly, this is how everybody should train horses. If they would just train horses like me, they would be successful. But then when I got more experience, when I trained 10 and 12 horses and 15 horses, I realized, oh, that didn't work for all those horses. I had to just Dig deeper and learn more and do things differently and try new things. And then when I trained 50 and a hundred horses, I realized, holy smokes, you had to keep learning. Your techniques had to keep evolving. And it made me realize that, wow, it's easy to be judgmental if I've only had experience with one or two or three animals and it's worked, but as I get more and more experience, I realized that. There's more and more to this, so Yes. Yes. Yeah. I love that. Krista, as we wrap up and before we move into our meditation how, what else do you have to share? How, as you reflect on your experiences and how they've shaped your practice and your perspective on Reiki can you tell listeners, what you've learned and maybe also how they can get involved or support people doing this work even more?

Krista: 1:17:05

I Would suggest. Doing a Reiki session for yourself, um, yes, either online or in person and I actually would even go a step further and suggest you do, if you're an animal lover, since we are talking about animals doing an animal Reiki session because that way It's for both of you, or all of you. You can have, if you have five dogs, you can have a Reiki session for yourself and your five dogs. Five dogs! Yes. And they don't, and with the animal Reiki they can come and go in and out of the room or. Yes, they don't have to be still. Still, yes it's okay to. Walking, movement moving your movement, yes moving

Pamela: 1:17:50

meditations what do we call that, Reiki

Krista: 1:17:52

in motion, that's it, yes, so it's okay to let, they don't have to be sitting right, still beside you all the time, so I would suggest doing an animal Reiki session yourself, and then a class, I would really recommend a class,

Pamela: 1:18:10

and thank you very much. Take it from there. Reiki leads the way, right?

Krista: 1:18:15

Yes. One, one step leads to another and I know it's definitely been that way for me.

Pamela: 1:18:21

You do beautiful work and I'm really grateful that you've partnered with me with this event with the Fredericton SPCA and we had a table together at their trade show recently. I know that sometimes I'm don't have time to do sessions or my schedule is booked out in advance. And Krista has agreed to do some of those animal Reiki sessions for people if they wish. Yeah, grateful for that and grateful for the work that you do. Thank you. Oh, thank you, Pam. You're welcome. Guys, I'd like to move into a meditation called the Garden of Forgiveness experience today. This is going to give you an opportunity to meet the Divine Animal Kingdom, which is like the Brothers and Sisters of the Light or the Enlightened Beings on the other side. It also will let you meet a Divine Mother, which represents the energy of all Divine Mothers that you may relate to. It could be Mother Mary, Mother Teresa. It could be, any of the Divine Mothers, the Goddess that you connect with and you'll be guided to lie in a bed of rose pebbles. While you're there, the Divine Animal Kingdom, the Brothers and Sisters of the Light, and the other Illumine Beings. that support us as animals here on the earth will surround you and the light of grace and grace of forgiveness will shine on you to release and heal any burdens that you may carry and fill you with beauty and grace and love for the animals. This light will wash the light of forgiveness over you and the animals to heal any injuries that you've sustained to your mind, body, and soul during your life experience. And that includes releasing guilt, grief, shame, blame, judgment, over empathy and Compassion Fatigue. So if you have struggled with any of those, even if you're not aware that you've struggled with any of those this will let them go for you today. So I'm just going to invite you to close your eyes and take some deep breaths and go ahead and activate your Reiki symbols. And if you have the animal Reiki symbol, you can activate that as well. And then just place your hands comfortably on your body and receive Reiki. I invite you to imagine that it's a beautiful, warm, sunny day, and the light of Reiki is shining all around you, and that the beauty of the divine earth fills you with every breath. You cross over a beautiful bridge of light filled with illumined beings as the river of life flows under the bridge and sparkling light, full of color, shines on the water. You arrive on the other side of the bridge and decide to walk along the path that follows the riverbank there. The Divine Animal Kingdom is lining the riverbank, drinking the living waters from the river. They greet you and welcome you. Peace is filling the air that surrounds you. And as you follow the path along the river, you come to another path with a white picket fence and a gate that leads to a beautiful garden. A Divine Mother greets you. You walk through the gate with her and breathe the sweet fragrance of the flowers. Peace and light and love surround you and she guides you to lie down into a soft bed of rose petals as the angels, the divine mother, the spirit of the earth, the divine animals and ascended masters surround you. The divine animal kingdom stands in a circle around you, shining blessings through you, as a brilliant light from the highest heavens shines directly upon you. The light washes over you and you simply receive the grace of forgiveness now. Not that anything needs to be forgiven, but this is a grace that comes from the source of all that is, and is very powerful. So the light washes over you and you simply receive the grace of forgiveness. The light and grace of forgiveness washes over you and the animals, and it begins to scan your body, releasing the cords and connectors to any injuries or spiritual wounds to your soul. Your body, your mind, your emotions with the animals and the worries, the burdens, and the power that the injuries have had over you are lifted from you and carried into the light where they are healed by the power of love all the way back to their original cause. And we're going to remain here as these are released on your behalf today. These are injuries to our body, mind, soul, spirit, or emotions. Now the light of the heavens is shining on you, and as you breathe in the light within you is revealed. Your wholeness, your beauty, your grace, your love, and your love for the animals, and their love for you, fills your heart and shines through you. And so you rise from the bed of roses and walk over to the circle of divine animals that surrounds you, and you realize that your light is beautiful like theirs. You step into the circle and take your place in the animal kingdom. Your light is like theirs. Your heart beats in the same rhythm as their heart, and you breathe the same breath of the earth. Your spirit is free and clear and empowered, and the light of grace shines on you now. I invite you to receive the light of grace, and we'll stay here for a few moments. I'd like to invite you to stay in your experience as long as you feel guided and when you feel ready to come back to take a few deep breaths, bring your awareness to your eyes, slowly open your eyes and return and just take some time to write about your experience if you would like. I'd like to thank you for being here with Krista and I today. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. If you feel like you would like to help RSPCA, we will have a link in the podcast notes. But you might be inclined to reach out to rescue organizations in your own community and we encourage you to do that as well. Thank you. And thank you, Kristen, for being here with us. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Pam. Thanks. Thank you for being the light that you are in the world, my friends. Namaste.