Introducing Reiki in the Medical Field - with Dr. Martha Lacy, MD

Dr. Lacy talks to us about Reiki and medicine, medical Reiki research and how she introduced Reiki to her own medical colleagues.  She explores how you can do the same and advocate energy healing for yourself or loved ones.  We end with a meditation that empowers you in your healthcare.

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Reiki Can Heal by modifying Gene Expression article
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Pam Allen-LeBlanc is a scientist, a businesswoman and a Licensed Reiki Master Teacher with the International Center for Reiki Training.  She is an internationally renowned speaker and one of the co-authors of the ICRT Animal Reiki training manuals and courses.  Pam teaches Reiki, Animal Reiki and Animal Communication online and in person in Canada, the US, Australia and the United Kingdom.

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Transcript

Pam: 0:58

On this week's podcast, we are talking to Dr. Martha Lacy about how to introduce Reiki in medical circumstances and to medical personnel. Welcome Dr. Lacy.

Dr. Lacy: 1:11

Thank you so much for having me.

Pam: 1:14

So glad you could be here. Before we begin, I'll just let you know some of the things that we have coming up here on the farm in January. I have a full slate of ICRT licensed classes, level one and two, Masters, Karuna Reiki, masters. I also have the ICRT Animal Reiki training level one and two and masters. So go ahead and check that out. And I also moved my schedule for booking appointments online. And you'll find a link to that in our description or our description of the podcast. So if you'd like to book a session or even a 15 minute session to talk about your Reiki journey, which is free, go ahead and do that. And we you'll receive a zoom link and you'll be added to my calendar. And I can't wait to talk to some of you personally. In the meantime, I want to introduce you to I feel like you're my friend, Dr. Lacey,

Dr. Lacy: 2:18

Me too.

Pam: 2:21

But my friend Martha or Dr. Lacy. And I wonder, Dr. Lacy, because I don't think I'll do a good enough job introducing you, can you just tell our listeners and our viewers who you are, and your, just a bit about your qualifications and what you do in the medical field?

Dr. Lacy: 2:41

Sure. Thanks for having me. I am a professor of medicine at Mayo clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. I specialize in hematology and in particular in a blood cancer called multiple myeloma. And I also do um bone marrow transplants. And so I have a little bit unconventional background for being involved in Reiki, but I've been pleased about having the opportunity to try to introduce Reiki into our practice at Mayo.

Pam: 3:21

And it sounds like you're doing a wonderful job of it. Dr. Lacey, I have so many questions for you, but before we go much further, I'm just going to invite everybody who's watching or listening to bring your hands together in Gassho and just activate your own Reiki energy. What this will do for us today is just allow us to listen with every part of our being. Listening to the podcast and Dr. Lacy's words and experiences with our hearts, our minds, our bodies, our spirit, and with our chakras And just understanding what this conversation and this discussion, understanding the possibilities that it brings forward to us. So go ahead and activate your Reiki energy and invite it to assist you with opening all of your listening faculties and open your heart and receive the message and open yourself to the field of possibilities that this message brings to you. Thank you for joining us here today. Aho Mitákuye Oyás'iŋ. Namasté. Can you tell me a little bit about what you are a medical doctor? You're not only are you a medical doctor, you're a researcher. You are a specialist. You teach medicine to medical fellows. And so what caused you to reach out to Reiki?

Dr. Lacy: 5:19

I had been exploring. Other modalities for sort of personal growth. I had done a lot of work learning how to do Shamanic journeying before I found Reiki. And then some of my friends in that community kept suggesting Reiki training over and over. And I eventually thought I better explore this. And I did my Reiki training through the ICRT with our mutual friends, Jill Thiel and Coleen Benelli. And I was hooked. I was just so impressed at how graceful and elegant Reiki felt and how compelling it felt. And I went into it thinking I would do it mostly for my own personal development, but as I did my training, I did the master's level and then the Karuna master's level in Holy Fire three Reiki with, those teachers. And as I got more and more involved in it, I realized that it was something that many of my patients would benefit from. And at first I was very shy about talking with anyone at work about this because I was concerned they would think that I wasn't serious or it was just a little bit outside, most people's comfort zones. They didn't even know what it was. But I began visiting with some of the people on some of the other caregivers on our hospital service, and I was pleasantly surprised to find that one of our nurse practitioners on our bone marrow transplant service had been a Reiki master for many years and that and once I discovered that I started talking about it with more people at work and realizing more people that were involved with Reiki than I realized. And we have a division of integrative and complementary medicine at Mayo. And I reached out to the person who coordinates the Reiki program there and started helping with a research trial she was doing and that opened doors. And I started, as I progressed with my Reiki training, I started teaching and I started teaching to other medical professionals and I also have opened a Reiki trial for one of our for our myeloma patients. And I'm trying to encourage some of the others that I've trained to also consider opening trials.

Pam: 8:30

And did you work with Dr. Baldwin with the center for Reiki research to design that trial? Or is it something you did on your own?

Dr. Lacy: 8:39

I did it on my own, but I was aware of her work. I bought her book and I had heard her on podcasts and at the ICRT and at the Reiki retreat. And so I contacted her when I was getting close to submitting the trial to our IRB and she was kind enough to review it and make some suggestions for me.

Pam: 8:59

Yeah. I thought you may have Kara collaborate. She is so helpful when it comes to research. Tell me a little bit more I, really understand your reluctance to, to begin with this and to just I'm, a scientist and yet so at first I was a bit reluctant as well, but I think in a position of healthcare, like you, I think that there's a lot of pressure to, do work in a certain way and that sort of thing. And so how was it received? I, it's really interesting to me that as you became more open to it, you discovered more and more people. And I wonder how many of our listeners would find the same thing. But one of the things I noticed Dr. Lacey is as I healed, as I really became more comfortable with Reiki myself. And, and lost that expectation of being judged for presenting something that was a bit different and maybe even considered complementary, or it is complimentary, although I know sometimes it's, considered alternative as I lost the, expectation of being judged, I, I found I wasn't judged as much. When did you find with that? Like how did you find that people received your.

Dr. Lacy: 10:27

I totally agree. I feel like the judgment was all my own insecurities looking back and that there are people out there that I don't understand it and dismiss it, but by and large, I've found that the more open I became the more it actually built bridges between me and other medical professionals. And when I speak about it with patients they're almost always intrigued and they always want to hear more about it. And the more open I've become, the more I realized that this is just something that speaks to the humanity in all of us. And it's something that we need to hear and we need to bring into our profession. We shouldn't have such narrow lanes about how we think about healing.

Pam: 11:32

Reiki was once I once used to hear it described as alternative healing. And I remember one of our licensed teachers, Laurelle Gaia, after she suffered a stroke, she began to become aware of how very important words were. And definitions and the meaning behind words. And she said, don't call it alternative healing because it was here before the allopathic medicine has been it's existed in every culture for millennia. And she said, really, it should be called complimentary healing because one of the major aspects of Reiki is that it doesn't replace medical treatment. Like I know that in that as you're treating your clients, you're still also offering this is complimentary. You're still also offering everything that you can offer them medically. And this is just one more piece of the puzzle in a way. So can you just tell us a little bit about how you find that Reiki works together with your scientific and medical training?

Dr. Lacy: 12:41

I do try to keep them separate in the sense that if I'm seeing someone for Reiki, I'm not trying to diagnose them or tell or change their medicines or do anything like that. If I, if somebody tells me something. Sets off a red flag for me as a physician, I just gently suggest you might want to bring that up with your physician. And then on the flip side, when I'm at work and I'm seeing someone talking about changing their chemotherapy regimens or doing symptom management or something, I don't do Reiki sessions in that setting, but if they ask for what else can I do? I bring it up and I say, you might want to find a Reiki practitioner. And so I don't try to be both their physician and a Reiki practitioner at the same time.

Pam: 13:44

That's really good advice. Yeah. Just keep keep the lanes separate.

Dr. Lacy: 13:51

Yeah. But I do realize that a lot of people don't, I don't know about the other lane. So if they start asking I'm, I point them that way.

Pam: 14:01

So in a way you would let the patient lead.

Dr. Lacy: 14:05

Because there's definitely some patients that probably don't want to go there and you can generally I always get a sense of someone's open to it or not, and if they are open and they want to hear about it, I will point them that way. But if if they're not, then I will stick to my physician lane and give them advice about the chemotherapy and the symptom management for them for the myeloma that I'm seeing them for.

Pam: 14:36

I think that's brilliant. And so how then do you incorporate Reiki into your work and into your life? What do you, when you find that?

Dr. Lacy: 14:46

It has been really fun to bring it into work because before I did that, I felt like I had this hidden separate existence. And to me, it's been very healing to me and making me feel whole to bring it to work. And so the way I've done that is to partner with the palliative medicine group. And I taught 13 palliative medicine, nurses and social workers last spring. And that was, that was really fun. And some of them were getting their doctorates. And so I've encouraged them. They had to do research theses, and I've encouraged them to consider reaching out and doing a project based around Reiki. And some of them have. And I'm still hopeful. Some of them might still consider doing that. But I met with the chair of the palliative medicine group just yesterday. And he said it's been a Reiki revolution in their group. And they're open to having some more training sessions for some additional personnel next year.

Pam: 16:00

So martha, that's so exciting that wow, you just crack the door open and it's

Dr. Lacy: 16:11

and then there's been people in my own division who were curious. So I've, aside from work on my I've offered some training sessions for some of our nurse practitioners and nurses and secretaries, and I've trained three physicians. And so it's, spreading, people are interested in it and then doing the clinical trial was a great way to bring it to work and also bring it to work with a vocabulary other healthcare professionals can understand because all of us in healthcare are always taught to be data-driven and there's nothing like having a trial to say, okay, you want the data? We'll see if we can go get it. And our trial is still ongoing, so I don't have the data yet, but hopefully we'll be able to demonstrate a tangible, a tangible difference when our trials done.

Pam: 17:16

Absolutely. What can you tell us about your trials so far? What are you, what are the parameters? What are you looking at?

Dr. Lacy: 17:25

In order to get a uniform population, we decided to offer it to myeloma patients who were in remission after their initial treatment with chemotherapy and stem cell transplant. And that's a time when it's a time when they've gone through the first six months of treatment and they're ready to embark on getting life back to normal. And so we are offering it to people who are coming back for their restaging appointments at that time point, and we're randomly assigning people to: no intervention or sham Reiki or real Reiki. We initially were going to do it in person, but then as we were planning to open the trial, the Corona virus hit. So we're giving the Reiki sessions weekly over Zoom. Yeah, absolutely. That's how I do most of my Reiki sessions, all of my Reiki sessions and they're very effective. Yeah. I have actually been impressed that the zoom sessions in many ways are effective in ways in different ways than the in-person. I've noticed that I they're so powerful and yeah, I don't know if it's just because as an empath, it lets me step out of the energy and be more of an observer. I don't know why, but they are powerful though. This is distance sessions. We are doing quality of life studies at the beginning and at the end of the four weekly treatments. And we're also collecting blood at the beginning and the end. And right now the blood is all. Frozen and banked, but when we're done, we're going to then analyze the blood samples to see if we can see changes in the immune repertoires. One of the, one of the hallmarks of blood cancers is that Then, as the blood cancers take root, the normal immune system sorta narrows. And so you see less diversity in the different numbers and types of immune system cells. And so we're not looking for any one particular population, we're checking, we're going to be doing assay's to just generally quantify. Globally how diverse their immune system subsets are. That's

Pam: 20:14

oh my gosh. I can't wait to, when does the trial wrap up Dr. Lacy or is it, or does it have a little bit of a fluid?

Dr. Lacy: 20:23

Well it depends on how quickly we can get people. Registered and, on the trial. And we've had a few little hitches with some of our initial personnel left and took other jobs. And so like, all industries were struggling to make sure that we have the right people available to help us do this. But but hopefully we'll get this trial done within the next year.

Pam: 20:53

Oh, my gosh, this is just so exciting. I love it. Have you ever noticed so you introduced the Reiki to your staff and it sounds like the people around you are very receptive to it. Have you ever noticed any resistance? As as you're introducing Reiki within the medical field, you ever noticed that?

Dr. Lacy: 21:18

Occasionally, although the more open I am about it, I'm suspecting that some of my colleagues who might be resistant probably aren't voicing that to me. Yeah. So you, and I think that that you, yourself just based on your qualifications on your ongoing work I think that it can simply be it perhaps it's being better received coming from you than say if I was to do a presentation in a hospital where my background is science, but not medical science. What would you say to people who do run into resistance? Like for, instance, people who are talking with their own medical doctors, or maybe even people who would like to introduce other doctors who would like to introduce Reiki into what they do or. Other medical personnel who would like to bring Reiki as a part of their work, what would you say to them if they're worried about resistance or if they'd meet with resistance, what would you recommend? One of the things that I lean on is I'm not trying to over promise what it is because you and I know that we've all known people that have stories about. Healings and physical and or emotional. But that is something that other medical professionals may or may not hear or here with an open mind and they are going, gonna want data. If you're going to talk with them about. So instead I talk with them about the benefits that are absolutely obvious and that's the stress reduction, the relaxation there's many studies that show improvement in pain. And, so if you frame it as an adjunct, not a replacement to what they're doing then I think it's much better received. And then. As they get more open-minded to it and they understand that gee there's, actually a lot of literature about mind, body connections. And it makes sense in a lot of ways, but sometimes you have to open the door in a little bit different, just framing it a little differently than you might for your, neighbor over the.

Pam: 24:08

And something, one of the things that I talk to my students about is the language that I, one of the things that I do is I, use Reiki on my voice, box and I invite the Reiki to flow through and give me the discernment as to what language I use. And it's, really okay to do that. And for instance, when I am talking with scientists and medical personnel, Talk much about the spiritual aspect of Reiki. I simply point out some of the literature and some of the research findings and some of the studies. And I use the definition that Reiki is a Japanese form of stress reduction that often promotes healing. And so I really agree with you about the not over promising and I've been very fortunate in my career. That I've worked with quite a lot of people with terminal cancer diagnoses and. Very successfully. Actually, these people are still around many years later with no evidence of disease. And yet I always encourage them to continue with their medical treatments. And I, CA I did have one lady who said, Oh, I feel so terrible after the chemotherapy, but so good after the Reiki and I'm going to die anyway, I might as well, I think I'm gonna drop the chemotherapy. And I said, please, don't please do like you discuss this with your doctor. Please do what your doctor wishes for you to do this as meant. To work in addition to that, to compliment that. And listen, that was about nine years ago now, and she's still around. She was given two or three months to live, so it is great, but I never ever promised that either. And I, let people know sometimes that happens, but this is just really a way to allow your body to heal itself and to just put yourself into a place where it can receive the healing and it can receive the benefit from all of the therapies. That that people are offering. I tell a story about a client that I was working with who had strep throat and she's, she really wanted the Reiki to heal her strep throat. And I very clearly heard as I was doing her treatment, tell her we developed penicillin for a reason. And to go ahead and take that, that too was created by God. And all of the wonderful, incredible medical personnel who were out there you know what, they've studied, what they've learned. That's all come through spiritually, whether we call it science or whatever is a form of spirituality or a measured learning to, to observe and measure. What's, already happening. And so tell her to take some penicillin and come and work on something really important.

Dr. Lacy: 27:19

And

Pam: 27:20

and that just always stayed with me as an example of how we developed penicillin for a reason. And I realized, yeah, that was a very. That was done very spiritually as well. So it's always, what advice, if you, if there are medical professionals out there who would like to introduce rate Heki or bring Reiki into the practice, and I know a few of them, I know a few doctors who've, I've trained who here in Canada and they know that Reiki and mindset. And the stress reduction would be really helpful in what they do, but they're a little shy. They don't want to be. We have something here in Canada called the college of surgeons and physicians. And I have to, tell everybody the listeners that I'm really thrilled because here in my province, in new Brunswick, Canada, where healthcare is all funded by the government made it. Just yesterday that they are incorporating what they call a complimentary and alternative therapies into their medical mandate going forward. And that's just wonderful. It is wonder it's huge. I never, honestly, I never anticipated anything like that. So when my husband told me about it This morning. I was shocked and I thought how interesting that I'm talking to Dr. Lacey today about this very topic, our government just decided to do that. So I think that's huge, but yet at the same point, I know that we have something that college of surgeons and physicians. I'm not sure what you have in the U S. Around that, but they're concerned that if they introduce Reiki into what they do, even just Reiki, meditations and things that would assist or, compliment the therapy that they may they may be judged or they may get into some trouble with some of the medical authorities. What advice would you have for someone like that?

Dr. Lacy: 29:42

It gets back to staying in their lane in the sense that when I'm a doctor, I do doctor things. And when I'm a Reiki practitioner, I do Reiki practitioner things and. If I'm as a physician thinking a patient aids to benefit from Reiki, I would refer that out just as if I thought they needed counseling. I would refer them out to a counselor. And so I think it's really staying within the scope of practice. And that's actually part of the ICR T code of ethics. Ethics is

Pam: 30:18

yes, exactly. To stay within our, scope of practice.

Dr. Lacy: 30:24

So one of the things I found was resonant when I was teaching Reiki to other medical people though, is to Frame it in terms of left brain and right. Brain activities, because my tribe understands that language and BEOS and scanning is a little bit out of our normal comfort zone as physicians and nurses. And and yet when I framed it that way you've been taught your whole medical career to think, to use your left brain. But if you just think of it in terms of all that intuitive stuff is really learning how to recognize and pay attention to the information. We're all getting in our right brain intuitive side all the time, and it's just learning how to frame it and recognize it.

Pam: 31:34

I absolutely love that explanation, Dr. Lacey that's, that makes so much sense. And I think probably you can't work in the field that you work in with life and death and these really important decisions and healing and health, and you can't work in that without, at times being very aware of your intuition.

Dr. Lacy: 32:01

Okay. No, that's true. And actually once I framed it that way, I realized that I've been doing this my whole career. I remember a colleague once pointing out that I was very intuitive with knowing which regimen to pick next, because. In the cancer I deal with. We've had a lot of advances in the last 20 years and there's lots of different choices and not any of them are necessarily bad. And most of them work for a while and then you have to switch gears and try something else. And the order in which you choose them is sometimes data-driven, but a lot of it's intuitive and that's just an as. Gotten more involved in Reiki and really have been able to observe myself observing. I've become more aware of how I've always done that. And I just, it's like a fish swimming in the water, not realizing that they're in the water. And so I think as health professionals, we do that all the time. But we don't even recognize that's what we're doing. I

Pam: 33:23

agree. And I think that the, best healthcare professionals that I've had the privilege of working with knowing what I know they've been very intuitive and not only have they been very intuitive and followed their own intuition. I've been very blessed that my medical practitioners that I, haven't needed a lot, but I do have a family doctor and now I actually have switched to a nurse practitioner and both of them have really honored my own intuition, like with regards to my children. When I felt that something was necessary and when I felt that it wasn't, they and with, and for myself as well. I, and in fact, I've even had them. Use that word will trust your mother's intuition. And so we'll order the test or we'll trust your mother's intuition and we'll, move forward with this. And I don't know. I really appreciate medical professionals who, who listened like that. But with that in mind, what about when someone has a medical. Professional. Who's not open. And I, think of my, father-in-law and he had, he was having difficulty with a rash and they medicine that he was prescribed, wasn't really giving him comfort from the rash. And I said let's add. Reiki treatment to that and he gladly get up on the table and he, immediately found that together, the medicine and. The Reiki really gave him a tremendous amount of relief. But he also he's always worked. He was a hospital administrator before he retired. And when he went back and pulled his doctor I wasn't really receiving relief, but those two things together really gave me a lot better. His doctor said, oh, That's just bull crap. That doesn't work. That's. And now granted, he's an older doctor. My father-in-law's doctor they're similar ages what do you say to someone who wants to advocate for their own health and if their medical professionals are not open, what would you recommend to them?

Dr. Lacy: 36:01

If they're receiving Reiki and fill it's a benefit, I guess they don't really need their doctors blessings. It's always nice to have that, but it's not a necessity. And I encourage people to be their own best advocate when patients are coming to me and asking about different modalities whether it's. No supplement or there's all kinds of things out there. And as a doctor, what runs through my mind is, this going to interfere with anything? Is this going to. Does this have any potential to do them harm? And so I, there are times when I say we don't really know if all that those supplements will interfere or play nice with your chemotherapy. Let's lay off of those for now. And maybe circle back to those later when you don't have to be on this stuff. But. If it's something that I don't think has potential to do harm, then as a doctor, I would say, okay. And if if I wasn't a Reiki practitioner and a patient came in and said they wanted to do Reiki while they were getting their chemotherapy, I guess I would immediately think that's not going to harm them. And so I would say, okay, but I guess twofold, I would encourage the person you're describing to just be their own advocate, but also to allow to have the doctors give some thought to not immediately dismissing anything. If it. It's going to just because it's not something they know anything about doesn't necessarily mean they should dismiss it as long as they know enough about it, to know that it's not going to harm them.

Pam: 38:07

And maybe they would, maybe a medical professional would need to do a bit of research to a certain, to themselves that it wouldn't cause harm and, then go from there as well.

Dr. Lacy: 38:19

Yeah, there's been many times when patients have asked me about something and I say I don't know anything about it. I Google it right in front of them.

Pam: 38:31

And you make your assessment based on that. I love

Dr. Lacy: 38:34

that. I love it.

Pam: 38:39

Dr. Lacey, those are the main questions that I had for you. I was, I'm so excited to hear about your research and I really appreciate all the. That you have here today for us. Is there anything else that you'd like to leave our listeners with before we move into a meditation today?

Dr. Lacy: 38:59

I guess just hope and optimism that more and more of the population is learning about Reiki and other biofield therapies. And the profession, the medical profession is much more open to it and then they may realize,

Pam: 39:21

yeah, I think that's wonderful advice and I think it's so interesting. I know that there's, a unit that I was Working with at the hospital. I was just actually, they ordered a lot of my essential oils. And so I would come in and, bring them in every so often. And the majority of the nurses in that whole unit were Reiki practitioners and that, you know what, like we don't even necessarily intended, but as we're treating our patients, the Reiki just flows and, it occurs to me that with medical. Professionals and medical personnel that we know that Reiki will never flow. If somebody doesn't want it, it will never go against their free And we know that people are there for healing. And I think that's what was happening. They were just doing their regular nursing duties, but in the time their hand would be on a patient that the Reiki energy would flow. And that would indicate probably they just assume they just took that as that patient must've needed it or else it wouldn't have started flowing like that. Yes.

Dr. Lacy: 40:34

I've had that same experience. And I've, also infused my stethoscope with Reiki.

Pam: 40:41

You infuse their tools with Reiki? What a brilliant idea. And and I know that. Even there was something about Dr. Oz that for awhile, he wouldn't do heart surgery without a Reiki practitioner present because he just found the surgeries went so much smoother, I believe. And

Dr. Lacy: 41:00

yeah, that's great. That's great advice if you used your stuff.

Pam: 41:07

Yeah, but I think. People go to see a doctor or a nurse for healing and they don't specify. I want you to use this technique and that technique and obviously you're going to do what's in your real house. But I think that if the Reiki does automatically start flowing at times, then that's an indication that the person must be open

Dr. Lacy: 41:30

to it. I agree. And sometimes I can actually feel it flowing direct from my heart to theirs. Wow.

Pam: 41:39

That is so interesting. And I feel that as a Reiki practitioner, but people are coming to me for Reiki. So I think that's so neat when it's happening in the medical field like that. Yeah. Thank you. Dr. Lacey, is there anything else you'd like to leave people with today or should we move into a meditation?

Dr. Lacy: 41:58

Oh, let's move into a meditation. Okay.

Pam: 42:05

So we'll move into our meditation today. I just invite the listeners to close your eyes, take some deep breaths and breathe. Placing your hands comfortably on your body, giving yourself Reiki. And I invite you to activate the power of your imagination. And just imagining a world where Reiki and other complimentary therapies and medical field work in cooperation so that people can receive wholeness. In their treatment and they can be treated body, mind, spirit, and emotions. Thank you to think

Dr. Lacy: 43:14

of any

Pam: 43:17

medical issues that you might have, and just imagine what Reiki could do for you alongside. The medical treatment that you are receiving. And if you have a medical issue that can be assisted by Reiki energy, we simply invite the energy to flow through you and compliment the therapy that you're already receiving to. If you are a medical professional, or if you are working with medical professionals, excuse me. And you wish to introduce rape. To other medical professionals or into the field of medicine, but you're concerned or worried about how that may be received, or if you wish to advocate for your own health. And you're worried about how that may be received. We invited the light of Reiki to flow into your voice thought. And to provide you with the discernment, to know which words to use, what stories, what approach, and we invite

Dr. Lacy: 45:05

any

Pam: 45:06

fear or nervousness or trepidation or worry around how you will be received. To be released and to be released with love. And so we'll just move into a space of silence as the energy addresses any of your medical concerns, any issues you may have bringing this forward. Now we invite the Reiki energy to show you. How best to present it in the places that you wished to, how best to advocate for your own health and healing to just show you the path forward. Is it works to release anything, any blocks or barriers? Or creating obstacles to moving forward with medicine and Reiki, and we'll stay here for several breaths. The Reiki energy flows through you. It invites you to claim your power. Your power to advocate on your behalf or on behalf

Dr. Lacy: 47:09

of the dependent

Pam: 47:09

loved one, your power to openly discuss what you believe. And your power to introduce others, no matter what field they're in to this incredible healing modality. And we'll stay here for a while to allow all of these energies to process for you to. And

Dr. Lacy: 49:43

collectively,

Pam: 49:44

I invite us to send Reiki. To the wonderful medical professionals and personnel who have become so overtaxed with the pressures of COVID and just send Reiki to. Assist them and knowing how very appreciated and honored and respected that they are. And if we can send them Reiki to assist them in making their jobs easier. And we do and we do so with. And appreciation and gratitude in our hearts. Let me end our meditation today with the Reiki ideals just for

Dr. Lacy: 50:57

today, who will not worry

Pam: 51:02

just for today will not be angry. Just for today,

Dr. Lacy: 51:10

I will be

Pam: 51:10

devoted to my work just for today. I will be kind to everyone just for today. That will be filled with gratitude. We end in the grace of gratitude. Grateful to Reiki, grateful to there's incredible medical professionals who selflessly assist us each and every day as we need them grateful to be living in the world that we are living

Dr. Lacy: 51:57

in. With all of the medical

Pam: 52:00

advances and the energetic advances, we are blessed to be of a lineage of light bringers, creating wellness on the earth today. Aho Mitákuye Oyás'iŋ. Namasté. Amen. Ashay. Shalom. And so it is. Thank you. I just like to thank the listeners who showed up today and open their hearts to receive our

Dr. Lacy: 52:46

messages.

Pam: 52:48

And I'd like to thank you, Dr. Lacey for being a pioneer. In this field and for all of the incredible work that you do, I hope you realize how appreciated you are.

Dr. Lacy: 53:01

Thank you, Pam, for this opportunity to visit with you and your listeners. Hopefully we'll, find that there's a lot more medical professionals that are involved in this field as time goes by. That would make me so happy.