Energetic Sovereignty with Cami Coté

Often the energies that cause problems for us are not our own.  What to do about spirit attachments, psychic attacks, and empath energy?   Cami discusses the strategies she uses.  Then leads us in a powerful meditation to reclaim our energetic sovereignty.

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Pam: 0:55

On this week's podcast. I am talking to my friend, my colleague, licensed Reiki, master teacher, yoga instructor, and sound healer, Cami Coté from Missoula, Montana. Welcome, Cami. Thank you. And we're talking today about energetic sovereignty, which is energetic boundaries and protection, and it's just a follow-up in a Lincoln to something we talked about a few weeks ago and it actually involves our topic last week as well on courage. So I'm really glad that you're here. Before we go too far. I just want to let you know about some of the things we have coming up at the farm. First of all, I finally got my own copy of the Reiki business book. I didn't get it until last Friday and Kenny has her. Cammy's actually featured in the book. And so I'm really excited about that. And of course you can purchase those books on Amazon. You can also get them at chapters. You can ask your libraries to bring them in. They're available in Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom throughout Europe and in Australia and New Zealand. Go ahead and check that out. If you are either interested in starting a Reiki business, or if you simply want to bring more Reiki into your life. I also invite you to look for our new, my new article on weaving Reiki into your life that. Something that was inspired by one of the chapters in the book. And that's in the. Seasons Reiki newsmagazine, which is just on newsstands stands now. And we can put a link in the podcast if you'd like to order a subscription to the Reiki news magazine. I want to let you know that in July, I do have the RMA classes, which is a level one and two and master class with the new world. Peace, holy fire, three Reiki energy. And those are being offered online in a European and Asian friendly time zone. So it'll be evenings in Asia and regular time in Europe. So I'd love to have you join me if those work for you. And also in July, I have a very special class coming up on camp Abello island. It's an animal Reiki class and we're adding a day so that we can actually get on a boat and go out and do some whale-watching. And I've talked to the captain of the boat and he says, sometimes we also see puffs. The rare puffins and razor bills. And we're sure to see, in addition to the whales, lots of seals and porpoises and lots of sea life. So if that class speaks to you, camp Abello island is a really special place. Those classes level one and two, and masters for animal Reiki are also being offered in July. And in August, I have a Kaurna Reiki class and an Australian friendly time zone, as well as an animal communication class in the Australian friendly time zone. Now Australia friendly times zone means. That it sometimes works for some of our Asian friends and it just it, is a little late for our European friends, but it just means evenings in north America. So if those make sense too, please join us. Can we, what have you got coming up in the next little.

Cami: 4:41

Yes. I will be teaching all levels. So a Reiki one and two master and Karuna in Spokane, Washington, which is about three hours from where I live. I have developed a great community over there, and I've been teaching there for years now. And finally, after a two year hiatus with COVID and. Buying a home and moving and all the things I finally get to return to my community in Spokane, which I'm really excited about. My classes are almost full, but there is a little bit of room in each one, like one spot and right. He wanted to

Pam: 5:21

fantastic. So grab that really quickly if you're

Cami: 5:25

yeah. And then I take July off. I, find that because I, like to I live here in Montana and it's always beautiful here. I like to take the time off just like everybody else does. So I take July off and then I'll be teaching animal Reiki courses. Animal Reiki, one and two and master in August, and then we'll be in Sedona. So Sedona international center for Reiki retreat, which you're presenting that in my writing. I'm presenting

Pam: 5:55

there. Yes. I forgot to mention that Cammie, we should probably put a link to the Sedona retreat because it's almost full as well, but I still think there are a few spots if anybody wants to join us. So I'll put a link to that in the podcast as well. Yes. Yeah. That's, I'm looking forward to that where we get to get together with a lot of our ICRC family. And I don't know the Reiki, there's something special about the Reiki retreat. It just energizes us and seems to take our Reiki to another level. Doesn't it. And yeah. And if anybody who's listening is also interested in becoming a licensed Reiki master teacher, like Cammie and I are and doing the extra thousand hours of training and so on. One of the requirements is actually attending a specific meeting at the retreat. So do think about joining us and this year people can join us for the Reiki retreat, both in person and online can't they Cammie. Yeah. So I'll definitely put a link there. I know that the online we'll have plenty of space and the in-person though is getting rather full but, join us if you can. Thank you, Cammie. I'm going to just invite everybody to bring their hands together and Gassho now and activate the Reiki energy. As we talk about this important topic of energetic sovereignty and boundaries and protection. Sometimes we get into Reiki because we are a bit more sensitive and more able to sense these energies that are around and Reiki gives us the tools to deal with them. And if there's anything that you'd like to learn about, or if you have any discomfort around it, I just invite you to invite the Reiki energy, to release the discomfort. Now I'm going to be doing an experience toward the end that will return us all to our sovereign state and just invite sovereignty into and through you and invite your boundaries to reinstate themselves if they have been blurred recently, or if there have been people or events that have been pushing against them and

Cami: 8:43

causing breaches.

Pam: 8:49

We just invited energy, the Reiki, energy, and their symbols to float through and around us

Cami: 8:58

and

Pam: 8:58

open our ears to hear the parts of this conversation that are the most important and the most pertinent to us. We are blessed to be at the lineage of light bringers who are creating wellness on the earth today. And that includes you creating wellness within you.

Cami: 9:20

Thank you.

Pam: 9:25

anonymous. Stay. So Kenny, I noticed that you had put up a Facebook post on this topic and I said, oh, Hey, that's a fantastic topic for a podcast. So thank you for agreeing to be here with us. What does energetic sovereignty mean to

Cami: 9:48

you? This is I, and something that you said in your prayer was about being open to hearing, even if you maybe had some type of adversion to hearing, if you will. And I can just say that I've personally had that aversion my own self. Like I wanted to shut all of this stuff out. I wanted to turn it off for a long time and because it, was confusing and I didn't know what was going on and, all of that. And so I'm really thankful for all of the tools that I have learned to be able to help me get energetically sovereign. So energetic sovereignty to me means that I am in my most empowered state of being, and ideally not being affected by energies that are coming my way either through physical type. Situations coming through from human beings that are alive like what we would call intrusions, entered energy, coming my way, not even necessarily from a person that really even knows what they're doing. Just sending energy not, really thinking much of it. And then we have another form of what, I would call psychic attack. And that's where someone very intentionally is sending energy your way. And if you will, in a way of trying to do harm towards you, and then we have spiritual attachments that happened from the non-animated beings out in the world. And so ideally as I maintain my own energetic sovereignty, I'm not being affected by all of this energy that is all around me. And as someone that's quite sensitive towards those and path psychic medium type of realms it's really important for me to be able to draw the line and, create a boundary, essentially.

Pam: 12:08

And I find boundaries. I, am, I identified as an empath and a lot of my students do as well. And so I've had a lot of experience with em paths and I find boundaries can be really, tough. Yeah. It's can be difficult to know where your energy ends and somebody else's begins because you, your energy somehow automatically takes on some of the burdens of others. And that's been a big part of my journey is just Going into the authority of compassion so that I can learn where I do and, leave other people's energies with them and create those boundaries. But it, did take me a while to figure that all out, I have to admit, and I'm so grateful for the tools we have with Reiki and with holy fire Reiki, in order to address that. So you brought up quite a few quite a few things intrusions. Can you tell us a little bit more about

Cami: 13:20

those? Yeah. So interventions are, and this was actually I started learning more about intrusions and how to name them through taking training with Coleen. Our, teacher and mentor though, in, in realistic reality, I guess I, I was learning about it prior to that. It just didn't have the vocabulary for it. And so I was thankful for the word intrusion. So intrusions are energy that like let's say I was going to not feel so good about something going on in my life. And I wanted to project that towards Pam, for example. And so I would send negative energy that way sometimes even not in a specific. Knowing way, like maybe there's a little bit of envy or a little bit of something like that coming up like, oh, I wish I had attentional. Just exactly. We can pick up those intrusions, just yeah, not always intentional, but they certainly do happen. And and again it's, more or less little energy hits is the way I would explain it. So energy leaks in a way. And if you look at, for example, The Reiki one and two manual where it shows the picture of the the person with their seven chakras and then how they have the seven layers of the Orrick that connect with each one of the chakras. The way that it's been taught to me is that the seventh layer, which connects with the seventh aura is what we would call our personal bubble space. And that is like the layer that oftentimes as impasse, we can allow to be very big and it actually serves us better to have it be in that as far as we can reach three or so feet around us in every direction, but because we have this tendency to let it get so big, we invite energy in that's not necessarily for our personal, highest good. So we can work with shoring up that energy leak by calling our our or a back into us. And then as well I don't pay so much attention to the next ones, except for them. The first one that connects with our root chakra and the root chakra is the one that's right. Either generally right outside of our skin. And that's like our energetic our last offense, essentially, as far as our aura is concerned. And so when energy makes it through there, then that's going to affect us. And it comes through that seventh layer and if it makes it all the way through like the Ora system and everybody has a lot of different beliefs out there about these different things, the way that I've personally seen it, and the way that I've been taught and mentored around this is that these different energetic situations that are happening can make holes in our aura or make tears in our aura different things like that. So then we can actually go back through and smooth it out again, and like repair, if you will, with the aura, with Reiki to not have that come through. So, at any rate the, aura system is a big part of it and then grounding as a big part of it. So, first I would go to grounding and then the aura but yeah, the energetic intrusions coming from someone else sometimes intentional, sometimes not intentional. And it's a real Marriott of various energies that can come our way from generally emotional types of things it could be through. Like I said, envy or, jealousy or, even anger, or just any of the myriad of emotions that we can experience.

Pam: 17:47

Yeah. It's and it is, I agree with you. I've always had a big energy and so it is really easy to be open and pick up those things, even though it's not intentional. Yeah. So that's, and what tools do we have that are particularly helpful with intrusions when they do make their way into our aura and into our.

Cami: 18:16

Yeah. So speaking specifically about holy fire Reiki, which is what, we're, what we're mainly working with. First, the holy fire healing or the holy fire meditation. So the, master meditation where we sit and we, bring in the holy fire energy. That's a really good one. And I often like to see the holy fire as my aura, and it's if you know the symbol and all of its properties it really is meant for this

Pam: 18:48

It's right. And it feels. Yeah,

Cami: 18:51

it fills the aura. It helps remove energies that aren't serving. It helps build our energetic, empowerment and protection and bring us healing and all the things that it talks about in the manual, it does. So that's a good thing. And then the, moving meditation also, when I'm doing the moving meditation, I'm literally envisioning my aura and like I'm doing this like Reiki shower type of feeling or, visualization as I'm doing that and, empowering and building up my aura through that process. So that one's really good. And then a really big go-to for me is the holy fire healing experience. So it's one of the experiences that we do. And specifically is useful in helping to remove intrusions.

Pam: 19:49

Yeah, it is an I it's a go-to for me. I do it with almost all of my clients and with myself and and, for people who don't have fully fire, they could use the Gassho meditation that Usui sensei taught us and the moving meditation would work without holy fire as well. And I just thought, ah, I just noticed that in the new article that there are the steps to the moving meditation there, if anyone is interested in having a look at it, and it's also part of our master

Cami: 20:21

teaching. Yeah. And as well, if you happen to have been, because I was a, it was so a Tibetan master before becoming a fully fire master you could also do the aura clearing that's basically the holy fire healing experience was, to replace the aura clearing technique

Pam: 20:44

and the healing attunement to can't be right. Yeah. Beautiful. So

Cami: 20:51

good tools. We have to work with

Pam: 20:53

amazing tools and so happy that we do and so helpful for, those of us who are sensitive to these things and can recognize them. And let's talk about psychic attack and because that's something that has happened to me. And, I know it's happened to you. It's not usually very comfortable. I spoke with William Rand about psychic attack because it didn't happen to me. Just before I, I went on to a Reiki retreat of his home in Maui and I wanted his impression of it and I was really surprised. He said, yeah, I'm always happy when. Receive a psychic attack. And I thought, oh my gosh, William, you've gotta be the only person in the world feels that way. But he had such a unique way of looking at it. He said that for him, psychic attack shows him a part of his energy. Field or aura that needs some work that, needs some attention that's that is, has got one of the rips or tears that you had mentioned. And so he's always appreciative of it and because it points it out and he may not have recognized it otherwise. And he said, what you've got to understand about psychic attack is that it's not the person's beautiful soul that is attacking you. And he said, it's a second heaven, energy, or being, or entity that is connected with that person or attached to that person who feels threatened by you. And that's where psychic attacks come from. And I thought that was such a unique. Take on it Cammy, but I really wanted to share it. What, are your thoughts on psychic attack? And it does feel

Cami: 22:56

awful. Yeah, no. I really agree with what William said. And for some reason I feel like I've read something along these lines in a manual. And I was actually trying we, we go through these manuals all the time and I was trying to specifically find it so that I could give a page. And I wasn't finding it today before our meeting, but where he had mentioned that psychic attack often times is pointing a direction into something that we need to learn about ourselves essentially. And I as, so I'll, back up once, one brief moment from, that and that realization because I don't remember the year, but it was some years ago I started feeling really off and I couldn't put my finger on what was going on. It must've been excited or I was Reiki one and two, but I wasn't a master yet. So it was it was quite some time ago and I'm feeling really off and couldn't figure out what was going on. And it went on for a couple months, time period. And I was really. Like not normal as I would, put it. And I really sat down and, I've been a yoga practitioner for a long time, a meditator. I, I had Reiki for about six months at this point and I sat down and I really got quiet and I started listening and I was like, what is going on here? And my. Intuition, if you will. My higher self, my authentic self, whatever we want to call. It told me that I was being psychically attacked and all the way down to the person that was sending it to me. I

Pam: 24:42

usually get the person.

Cami: 24:45

And that was a big like realization for me to oh my gosh, because this was actually a friend of mine that was sending this energy and it wasn't an accidental thing. It was an intentional thing. Yes. At that point I felt like I needed to learn more and I was like, I don't know how to deal with this. Exactly. I need to learn more. So I signed up for what is called my clairvoyant teacher calls it the kindergarten class. But it's I'm trying to peace and help peace and safety in a spiritual world was the name of the class. And I was like, I like it. It was a six week class. And I learned so many great tools in that class. So a lot of what I was talking about with the auras, I learned that I hadn't learned that of course, in a Reiki training we, touch in on these things, but we don't get this opportunity to go super deeply into all of these different things. And one of the biggest and best things that I learned from that was that grounding was so important. However, It however, we did it, grounding was like a key aspect. And then secondarily keeping our auras pulled in and drawn in. And my teacher at that time said, Cammie, your aura is as big as Missoula. So I've heard things like that too, but it's it's like expensive because I'm in Montana. And so that's

Pam: 26:30

I don't hear Missoula, but yeah.

Cami: 26:35

Okay. It's you got to learn how to reign that, in. And it's really about intention. It's not like I don't I don't necessarily see it though. Now I can more energetically see it the more that I've worked with it, but it was really an intentional practice of calling the aura back in to where I was at. And so anyway, then I felt pretty I have to be honest because that's who I am. When I took that training, I thought I'm going to fight fire with fire. I am going to send it right back then. I realized through the process that's not who I am. And I just really learned that I can keep myself protected and have that energetic sovereignty within me. And I can just say return to sender. I don't need to take this on anymore returned to sender. So a lot of people, when I tell the story are like how do you know what was real or what wasn't real or anything such as that I'll tell you. As soon as I started learning returned to sender, this person started reaching out to me again, I hadn't talked to her and Five six months. They re they recognized when you start making the boundary, when you start cutting the cords, when you start returning to sender and they, this person wanted to have lunch, we had lunch and, she fully admitted to what she had done. Wow. I was like, okay. So huge confirmation there on that level. Since then naturally I've had Reiki training and I master training and holy fire training and all of these different things. And I was going along pretty well for a long time feeling like I really had this figured out and I, w every once in a while something might come up, but I'd use one of our tools and everything would be good. And what have you. But then as we were talking earlier, like sometimes things just really catch you off guard. And that exact thing happened to me this spring. I was dealing with some stuff going on in my life. And all of a sudden I realized that I was dealing with psychic attack. Wow. And I was like, okay, so this is. Number one, a good learning experience for me, because just as I thought, I had it all figured out here like we're not amused at all. And so it was really. Yeah though, I didn't want to be going through that specific issue. It was helpful for me to remember and in the process, interestingly, as I was going through that, I had two different students reach out to me that were also dealing with psychic attack and looking for additional pools. So that's when I wrote the post that I eventually ended up posting on my Facebook page, because initially it was a response back to a student that then I decided to share with another student that had originally reached out to me. And then I was like, oh, I should share this with my, Reiki group that I have on Facebook. And then I was like gosh I feel like if I'm dealing with this, a lot of people are, so I might as well share. With the whole community. And I

Pam: 30:21

saw your Facebook

Cami: 30:22

posts and I was like, okay, here, we have to do a podcast on them.

Pam: 30:27

So guys, what you wrote up and I'll look at it too, to tell them a little bit about it. We are going to link to that in the podcast so that you can check it out further. But what we're S this was basically some advice that you had together for your students is that.

Cami: 30:44

Yes. Yeah. And the more for some, years I've been thinking that I really would be well-served to create a similar though, not the same course this like energy boundaries and protections, whatever we want to call it and, share that with the community. I just haven't quite gotten around to doing it. I do let

Pam: 31:11

me know, because I have a lot of students who would like to

Cami: 31:14

attend, I think, and

Pam: 31:17

I think I'd like to attend as well. I think it's just something that. That we can all use. And what sort of advice did you find you gave and for instance, what were some of the tools that you would talk to them about with regards to psychic deck? What did you

Cami: 31:35

advise? First and foremost, I did say. The return to sender. And like the image that I used I felt was really powerful because it was a fist coming into an open hand. And so it was like returned to sender. Like I'm not letting that come through to me. So I, feel like I'm a visual storyteller. If you happen to follow me on Facebook, most of my pay, my posts have images connected with them because it's like, there's such power in the image. Yeah. And so then the first thing that I recommended is that they stop and they take three deep breaths. And so even in the moment that there is like if, you're a busy at work or whatever the case is, and I can attest to this because like I've worked in high paced, fast paced hospital environment where I was worked as a lab assistant. So like I had to go on stats and OB and then the ER, and all of those things. And it would get really overwhelming, but no one ever once yelled at me, if I stopped and took three breaths like whatever you're doing, you can take three breaks. I'm asking for three per Hess. And then in that moment, I suggest that the person take a moment to feel grounded. So as they're taking three deep breaths, as you exhale, visualize your grounding into the earth. Because that tends to be something that, that we get as, the words come knocked off kilter, we get thrown out of our, whatever you hear all of those different antidotes that we often say. And then we can take it in a lot of different directions. For example, I'll just say the affirmation that came through for me and this one is I command the, anything that doesn't serve my highest, good to leave me now. Nothing is allowed to access my energy. Nothing is allowed to feed off of my energy. My energy can not be manipulated without my consent. So if you have wow, like that's, that is like stepping into your power and then say, here it is your divine, to be protected. Like this is energetic sovereignty. Like we oftentimes get into a place of feeling like a victim when we are dealing with these energies that we can't see and we're feeling and it's, feeling like we're off tilter and all of this stuff, but we have to remember that we are energetically somber. And so I realized that's a long affirmation or prayer or whatever you want to call it. But even if you can't remember it exactly the, highest points of it are I'm saying that nothing is allowed to manipulate me without my consent. Especially for people that have the propensity, if you will, towards empathy, towards being an empath to, towards being clairvoyant or psychic towards being a medium. Oftentimes we've had those energetic boundaries crossed a lot. And so it's okay, I now am saying like, this can't happen without my consent. And so we're putting a pretty big energetic boundary right there with that. Yeah. And so then again it's just a. To allow that. And then in the event that you have had, what I might consider it to be an episode or a that type of thing come through naturally, a clearing is really good. So first and foremost, really easy wherever you're at the. Really quick and really easy. Then later, if you have more time, you can do meditation. You can take a salt bath, you can take a shower, anything that works like that naturally self Reiki helps sometimes though, like these things come at you and you don't quite have the time to really go hop in the shower, so it's okay, that can Yoko is my number one. Go-to whenever something like this comes my direction. And then again, like I said, grounding, so getting back into the earth, getting back into if I can, if it's, I live in a snowy part of the world, so it's if it's winter, I'll be grounding inside generally. Like I'm not one of those people that wants to put my feet in the snow for very long.

Pam: 36:32

Yeah. I put my feet in the snow, but it is rather short.

Cami: 36:37

Or if it's we've got a beautiful yard and when it's not winter time and so get out in the grass and enjoy the trees. And I had actually looked up some other really good options for grounding recently. So naturally the barefoot in the grass is number one considered, and then sitting with your back against a tree that was another suggestion. And I'm like, oh yeah, that feels really good to just sit in there. And then secondly, or thirdly, I guess just really having that visualization. Having that intention that I'm grounded right now.

Pam: 37:17

And picturing roots going down and there's some, we can put the power symbol at the bottoms of our feet. There's lots of great, but I like the trees. Grass.

Cami: 37:29

Oh, nice. Like you can just lean up against it or even depending on put your hands on it. It's just there. There's, that beautiful POM or I don't know. I see it get passed around Facebook a lot. Like what you can learn from a tree. Like all of the points are just so great so yeah.

Pam: 37:51

My favorite things is heart connecting with the tree. I love that. So when they want to, when they can send those so lovely. So these are some great suggestions. Can you know, we also talked about spirit attachments and can you give us a little bit of background on that? And I know we talked about it in a podcast a few weeks ago, but I love different

Cami: 38:16

perspectives. Yeah, definitely. Again I think that I feel like I was starting to develop my medium skills at a very young age and it scared me. So I would Oftentimes just want to diminish it and put it away and that kind of thing. But when I was 17, my grandpa came to visit me after he had passed away. Like I knew he had passed away before anyone in the family did. And yeah, that was a lot to deal with. And then as, life and so on, continued on. I really, turned it off for quite a while. And when I took Reiki a one and two, I just didn't really pay too much attention to it. And then I took master training and similarly didn't pay much attention to it. And it wasn't until I took Kaurna Reiki that it finally just like the, light bulb went off. I was like, okay, this has been something I've been dealing with. And I actually had a client that had that suddenly it just like, all was shown to me. Like my client had a spirit attachment and there I was in the current a class. And on our break, I was texting her and saying, Hey, You have a spirit attachment and like how brazen of me. But thankfully it was a good friend and client and she was like, yes, you're right. And so she like immediately got the, yes, but that was true. And so we set up an appointment to see each other, the that following week and remove the spirit attachment. And then from then on it just started showing up in my life more and more. Yeah. I guess one thing I like to do is like introduce and then go back for whatever reason, because again I, realized like what a, I guess a privilege I have to have had these experiences and to have made it through that point of understanding, but it wasn't like that to begin with doing any kind of spirit stuff, scared me. I want not to shut it off. It took me a long time to be able to be in a place where I was like, okay, to, and willing to work with it. So if that something that anyone that's listening is also going through know that as. This isn't something that you have to do. But the thing that my, my mentor told me was that it will keep knocking, and so if you do have this gift, which it can often times be challenging to look out as a gift it will keep knocking. And as my mentor put it, it was like, I would rather know what's out there than to shut the door and just pretend yeah, the spirit attachments don't happen or there, there are not, there are non-animated beans, the, in the world or, whatever, however we want to talk about it. Yeah, so then that spirit release ended up being a really powerful experience for me to work with. And not only did I work on it with clients, but then at one point I personally also found that I had a spirit attachment and it was at a time when I was going through a really challenging experience and actually a friend of mine pointed it out to me and I was other people to see. And so at that point I, did the spirit release for myself and it changed everything. And. This is, these are questions. I get a lot in class. I, guess I seem to attract maybe students that, recognize this in me. And so we have a lot of conversations about psychic attack and about about spirit release and so on and things that I've personally noticed that Clients are, things like them talking about having really weird accidents, like nothing that was really, so bad generally, but just these weird little accidents or dizziness, even the clumsiness. And then we. The other thing that I hear a lot is I've heard this a couple of times. I think it's really interesting people saying, I don't feel like my voice is my own voice anymore. Oh yeah. Okay. The guilt the, gears are turning and then of course people talking about, I don't know why I'm so tired, I'm just so tired all the time. And this is so unlike me that kind of, those types of things are like little clues into bringing us into a greater state of awareness. And then. We all have our different gifts on the Clare census spectrum. And so whether we feel it, whether we hear it, whether we see it, whether I all the different Clair census, like some of them might be stronger for you than others. I have personally tend to work more with my Clare empathy and my Claire cognizant, so declare knowing, but I have over time developed my clairvoyance and my Claire audience and different things like that. So, yeah, it's it's a lot to unpack all of this this psychic or what have you energy that's out there.

Pam: 44:25

It is, but I love that we have the tool of brachy to deal with it. And one of the things that my evolution with spirit attachments, because I do think that there are some people who attract them more than others and I'm, one of those people. So because of that That w and there's even terms for it. Ascension being or medium of transit. Like I think some of us are actually meant to help some of those energies cross and get back to source. And that's what our tool with holy fire Reiki does. It actually treats the energetic attachment with compassion and, with love. And it, moves them into a place where they can be healed. And I think that's what I like so much. I've, learned some other techniques to deal with it with spirit attachments. And these are energies that have some level of consciousness. They may not be discarnate souls. Like I view a lot of. Illnesses and diseases and conditions. They have some level of consciousness. So they actually respond to the spirit attachment work, but these energies certainly do exist. And like you, I had an evolution with them from being frightened of them and just wanting to close my eyes and ears and say, LA there's only light, there's only light, there's only light. And one of the things that I find. Really helps me, whenever I teach the spirit attachment work and we go into a fair bit of detailed because a lot of my students are very familiar with it and want to know what to do and have a lot of questions. I teach about the little soul and the sun. I actually Carolyn Musial told me that she brings that book and reads it. It's a children's book written by Neale, Donald Walsch, who also wrote conversations with God and actually read that in my classes, just so that we can understand and maybe form some empathy for these trapped spirits or souls or energies with consciousness. And that being said I moved from a place of being afraid of them to a place of having some compassion for them. And. Yet the tools that we use with holy fire are the most effective tools I've ever learned or come across because we don't get involved with them. We invite enlightened beings to do the work for us. And and it's a really lovely, tool. And I think Cammie, for people that don't have holy fire or who maybe are level one and two, or maybe are Reiki masters from other lineages, William Rand wrote Another form another way of doing the spirit release. I don't find it's quite as effective as what we can do with holy fire, but it still works. And we can maybe include a link to that. And it's a full article, but one part of the article actually leads you through doing spirit release and that's become a very regular part of my practice. Now, Cammie, I find there are very few people who don't have something attached with some level of consciousness. And so it's just a part of what I do with my clients, with myself, for my horses, for the land, the farm that I'm on. And so I don't know if, it's become such a regular thing for you

Cami: 48:31

also. Yeah, it has come a it's become quite a regular thing as well. And oftentimes as I'm teaching, I say. It's not as uncommon as you might think it will be. That's always my, my

Pam: 48:46

it was very unusual to find somebody who doesn't have something.

Cami: 48:53

So this technique is very helpful. Yeah. I think like we oftentimes get like we, we immediately go to the Hollywood, like the all of that. And, so it's not like that and, so yeah, we have that conversation all the time. It's I'm like, it's a lot more common than you realize.

Pam: 49:22

And I think that our technique, I had a friend who was approached to be on a T part of a television or a streaming program where they were going to go into. Houses with some of this type of activity, places where gunfights had happened or people were killed and they were going to bring a psychic and, clear the house and then somebody would renovate the house and see if they could flip them. And it was interesting because she said you just have to understand that what we do with holy fire Reiki while it's effective, it's not very dramatic. So I don't think it's gonna make for good TV. It's very simple. And that really stood out to me. I, laughed. She did the interview and everything, but she basically told them not to hire her because what we do, isn't dramatic. It's just full and defective. Yeah. I love that. Is there anything else you want to share with people about these topics? Is there anything we haven't covered?

Cami: 50:36

I I was just looking over the little tips and whatnot that I wrote in that particular that particular article or that post that I put. And I find it so interesting that today I decided to write where a red scarf. And that was one of my suggestions was that if you happen to be feeling like a negative energy is coming your way, you can wear a scarf. Now I got a burn on my chest, so that's actually why I'm wearing a scarf. It wasn't because I was ready to go. It wasn't feeling like I was being challenged by any means today. I just was trying to hide, the burn on my chest taped sensitivities type of thing. So anyway so yeah, wearing a scarf can be really good hats like. So I had said there's something about covering up your crown chakra in the event that like a lot of psychic energy is coming your way. So that can be really useful. And it's not always convenient to wear a hat, but we can put a Reiki hat on just envision that we have our hand and we're putting a hood or a hat on. And then Let's see, there was also having crystals. So things like black Tormaline are really useful really a lot of crystals can be programmed to be a protection crystal. You could use Claire courts or any number of other things, but specifically black tourmaline, black obsidian. Some of those are specifically like meant to be Crystals that will help protect you from, a psychic type of energy and that kind of thing. So

Pam: 52:30

this is what we didn't really mention was protection. Isn't it? And so things like these are really

Cami: 52:39

yes. Yeah, actually that's a great thing to, to remember. So definitely like the affirmation that I mentioned is a great way to do protection, but then really simple ways or just to if you have Reiki, symbols, like I'll draw them out in front of me and walk through them, pull them into me or pull them into me. I'll put the symbols on my hand and go up and over my body. So putting that like Reiki cloak kind of idea on again, like grounding, grounding is just so important, then naturally the Reiki moving meditation, if you are doing that's such a good one. And then really just again, that commanding of the, auras calling the auras in and I oftentimes like to envision my aura, having the symbol. On it and, protecting and in the, in a situation, which I've not felt like I've needed to do for a while. I'll, put my master symbol, like out in front of me. And again, it's like that wall like a shield type of thing. If I really some negative energy happens to be coming my way that kind of thing. And a lot of people that maybe don't know they've experienced this type of psychic attack or, maybe are asking, like how would you know, or how would you all of these questions it's, a big, like I said, it's a big topic to, to unpack. But really. I just started noticing myself being, off-kilter like not my normal self and that then I started getting quiet and listening and realized there wasn't really anything wrong with me. Physically or whatever. And so I got to looking deeper and that's when the psychic attack part came forward. So, yeah. Stuff to sift through

Pam: 54:57

that. Definitely. And I love the idea of protecting our energy with Reiki because of course, Reiki has divine consciousness. And sometimes when we get too tangled up in protective bubbles, we can keep the good stuff out too. But the consciousness within Reiki can provide protection while allowing what we do want yeah. I'm in to, to come in. And so I love that idea of, going up and over and, creating that cloak with Reiki and. Yeah. Yeah. Cammie, thank you for all of this great information. And I think you are going to lead us in a meditation today to just assist us in taking back our own sovereignty, our own. Ownership of our energy,

Cami: 55:50

yeah. So this, particular meditation is called the holy fire healing experience. So if you are a master this, particular experiences available to you, and this is like I mentioned, it's one of my go-to experiences. I, generally use this with my first time clients I always listen and listen for what is best, but oftentimes this is the beginning answer and I find it to open up so many different if you will thought or pieces of, the energy. And so I go a little bit deeper than what is written on the script with releasing. So I'll, go through the little how I do it it's, very similar to the script, but I go in a little bit deeper with going into our energetic sovereignty and that kind of thing. Let's just take a moment to take a couple of deep breaths. Those three deep cleansing breaths are so useful. So take a deep breath in and take a deep breath out and another deep breath in and exhale. And one more deep breath in and exhale begin to send your grounding energy town into the earth. However, that works best for you. Visualizing roots or a grounding cord, any of the above. And now that we have this energetic connection, this energetic Tyler to the earth, we are going to talk a little bit about the holy fire healing experience. So this specific experience is used for us to be able to let go of energies that are not serving us. And sometimes we have a very real knowing and understanding of what we want to let go of. And other times that might be a broader and wider spectrum. And for example, when we're trying to let go of energetic attachments and different things like that, we can just really say, I would like to let go of all negative energy, all psychic energy, all spirit attachments. And we can do that. But if there's specifically something that you know that you want to release, you can do. Within the manual system, it does have us go through some questions and I find that can be very useful, but I also find that it's not really necessary all the time either. So I'm not going to go through the questions tonight. We're just going to have a trusting and knowing that what needs to be released will be released. So the way we go on our journey to begin with envision that you're walking on a path and a beautiful forest, as you walk and you breathe, you feel a deep sense of connection between you and the earth. You feel the bottoms of your feet connecting and the earth energy is coming up through the bottoms of your feet. Bringing you a sense of groundedness and connection. As you walk along, you experienced the trees and the grasses, the flowers, you feel a deep sense of connection with the life force energy that is around you. As you continue to walk, you notice that the pathway begins to branch off and there's a pathway that leads to the right and you feel compelled to take that path. So you do walking down the path to the right. He realized that you're coming into the edge of the forest. And with your next steps, he stepped out into a large clearing in the middle of the clearing is a small hill covered with grass pathway weeds across to the hill. And you continue walking. You climb up the side of the hill with ease. And when you reach the top, you decide, you'd like to lay down there. So you do. And as you lay down, you feel yourself relax deeply into the earth and you feel the earth embracing and holding you here, you are safe. You are protected. You turn your gaze upwards towards this expansive blue sky overhead. White puffy clouds floating by and just as you're watching the clouds of powerful beam of light, come shining down out of the highest heavens. This light connects in with you and fills your entire body with feelings of warmth and safety protection. This light is the light from the highest heavens. This light can help us to remove energies that aren't serving. It can release. Assignments that we've been given in this lifetime. And in past lifetimes, it can help to, and vows and contracts in this lifetime. And in past lifetimes, it can help to release any and all energy that isn't serving our highest bud. Be open to receive open to let it go and be filled back in with the Reiki light. Remember that you are an energetically sovereign being. You can command that. Anything that doesn't serve your highest, good to leave you now, but nothing can use your energy without your consent. Look into the light and allow the light to guide you. The light is guiding you now follow the light. You can stay in this experience for as long as you feel guided to do so now, as you feel ready to journey back, speaking to come back with your breath, taking those three deep cleansing breaths in Halloween. Again. One more time or they're letting go of anything that isn't serving you. It's a good time to potentially do a can Yoko now and just to release any additional energies that you want to let go of. And when you feel ready, you can come back into the space and time.

Pam: 1:07:24

It's so lovely to be on the receiving end of that, Cammie. Thank you. I want to thank you for being here with us today and just sharing all that you've shared about this wonderful topic. I wonder if you can end for us with your affirmation that you use.

Cami: 1:07:49

Yeah, absolutely. So this is the affirmation and, again I'll, S I'll send this little piece that I, think it'll be easier if I just send you the right and then you can post it in your, so this is the affirmation. I command the anything that doesn't serve my highest, good to leave me now, nothing is allowed to access my energy. Nothing is allowed to feed off of my energy. My energy cannot be manipulated without my consent. And really that last sentence. If that's all you can remember, I think that really hits the nail on the head. So my energy can not be manipulated without my consent. And then we're standing in our power and our spiritual sovereigns.

Pam: 1:08:48

I love that. Cammie, thank you so much. And I want to take a minute to say thank you to the listeners. We so appreciate you. And just all the light that you are spreading in the world today. And we hope that some of what we've talked about can just help you remain more sovereign as you do your work. So thank you for being you.

Cami: 1:09:17

Yes, definitely. And like I said, this is a lot of information to unpack and we're all on our journey in our own ways. And so if this isn't quite resonating with you yet know that someday it might, and this information might come in handy in the future.

Pam: 1:09:38

Absolutely. Thank you. Namaste.

Cami: 1:09:43

Namaste.